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PAB/7102/DGMcN/RG
FROM: D G McNEILL, PAB
DATE: 15 APRIL 1991
NOTE FOR THE RECORD
Copy No [ ] of 11
cc PS/Secretary of State (B&L) [1&2]
PS/PUS (B&L) [3&4]
Mr Deverell [5]
Mr Pilling [6]
Mr Alston [7]
Mr Thomas [8]
Mr Petch [9]
Mr Marsh [10]
File [11]
PROVISIONAL MOVEMENT AND PIRA: THE REVERENDS MURPHY
1. I had a phone call on 12.4.91 from the RC Chaplain at Maze, John Murphy. The C of I Chaplain Will Murphy was listening at the other end of the phone.
2. He phoned me to see, in his words, if anything was moving on their proposition which they had put to us ie that someone from Government should talk to the PAC contacts. I asked him if there had been any further contact at his end. He said that there had not been any since they last met me.
3. I said that there was nothing further that I could tell them at my end. I referred to the developments on the Political Development front and told him that in my view I could envisage nothing happening in relation to their proposition in the foreseeable future.
4. They repeated their belied that we were missing an opportunity. He asked me if I wanted them to close down their channel. I said that it rather seemed to me that the channel was probably closed anyway given that there was no movement up or down it. However, I did ask him if he felt duty bound to go to their contacts and tell them that they were coming up against a stone wall. Father Murphy said they did not feel duty bound to do so though it was frustrating that they were unable to do anything else. He did say that they had been toying with the idea of making further contact if there was anything more positive which they could tell their contact. I said that quite clearly the import of the message I was giving them was that there was nothing additional that I could say. He said that in those circumstances he saw no point in asking for a further meeting though he repeated that he did not feel duty bound to go to his contacts and tell them that they were closing the channel down.
5. We closed the conversation by me saying to them that although I did not expect that I would have anything new to say to them within the foreseeable future they could if they wanted make contact with me at any time should the need arise.
6. In essence although I left a chink of light I would regard this channel as effectively closed for the foreseeable future.
(SIGNED)
D G McNEILL
Political Affairs Division
SH Ext 2238
PAB/7102/DGMcN/RG
FROM: D G McNEILL, PAB DATE: 15 APRIL 1991
NOTE FOR THE RECORD
Copy No [ ] of 11
cc PS/Secretary of State (B&L) [1&2] PS/PUS (B&L) [3&4] Mr Deverell [5] Mr Pilling [6] Mr Alston [7] Mr Thomas [8] Mr Petch [9] Mr Marsh [10] File [11]
PROVISIONAL MOVEMENT AND PIRA: THE REVERENDS MURPHY
I had a phone call on 12.4.91 from the RC Chaplain at Maze, John Murphy. The C of I Chaplain Will Murphy was listening at the other end of the phone.
He phoned me to see, in his words, if anything was moving on their proposition which they had put to us ie that someone from Government should talk to the PAC contacts. I asked him if there had been any further contact at his end. He said that there had not been any since they last met me.
I said that there was nothing further that I could tell them at my end. I referred to the developments on the Political Development front and told him that in my view I could envisage nothing happening in relation to their proposition in the foreseeable future.
They repeated their belied that we were missing an opportunity. He asked me if I wanted them to close down their channel. I said that it rather seemed to me that the channel was probably closed anyway given that there was no movement up or down it. However, I did ask him if he felt duty bound to go to their contacts and tell them that they were coming up against a stone wall. Father Murphy said they did not feel duty bound to do so though it was frustrating that they were unable to do anything else. He did say that they had been toying with the idea of making further contact if there was anything more positive which they could tell their contact. I said that quite clearly the import of the message I was giving them was that there was nothing additional that I could say. He said that in those circumstances he saw no point in asking for a further meeting though he repeated that he did not feel duty bound to go to his contacts and tell them that they were closing the channel down.
We closed the conversation by me saying to them that although I did not expect that I would have anything new to say to them within the foreseeable future they could if they wanted make contact with me at any time should the need arise.
In essence although I left a chink of light I would regard this channel as effectively closed for the foreseeable future.
(SIGNED)
D G McNEILL Political Affairs Division SH Ext 2238
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This document provides an account of a telephone conversation that took place between Danny McNeill and Fathers John Murphy and Will Murphy on 12 April 1991. McNeill informed the Maze chaplains that there was no positive update regarding their proposition for the British Government to start dialogue with PIRA. They concluded by agreeing that the channel between the chaplains and the British Government and that between PIRA and the chaplains would be shut down.
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