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• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Framework Agreement

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 06 Jun 1993, 12:00
  Speaking Notes on JD6

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 13 Jun 1993, 12:00
  SECRET & PERSONAL Meeting with Cabinet Secretary Butler – 13 June 1993. Taoiseach, As arranged, I met Sir Robin Butler for approximately 1 1/4 hours in London yesterday. Butler said that the Prime Minister had not yet settled, with his colleagues,...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 13 Jun 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: 'As arranged, I met Sir Robin Butler for approximately 1 1/4 hours in London yesterday'.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 13 Jun 1993, 12:00
  Irish Government Contacts

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 13 Jun 1993, 12:00
  Talks

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 13 Jun 1993, 12:00
  Articles 2 & 3

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 13 Jun 1993, 12:00
  Butler said that the British Government's policy was to try and get the talks resumed again. They were "the only show in town". They were willing to pursue all the tracks to an accord. The structure of the talks was not fixed and could be changed...

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 13 Jun 1993, 12:00
  On Articles 2 and 3 – the British did not expect an unilateral modification. They were quite happy with the Tánaiste's recent indication that if satisfactory agreement were reached, then the Unionists could expect some proportionate modification in the...

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 13 Jun 1993, 12:00
  Role of John Hume

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 13 Jun 1993, 12:00
  I said that my understanding was that while he had been in on the initial talks, the streams might now be diverging and we would not be at all sure of Hume's standing in the discussion. His relationship with Sinn Fein was quite delicate. I emphasised...

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 13 Jun 1993, 12:00
  [Signature] _____________ Dermot Nally, 15 June, 1993.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 13 Jun 1993, 12:00
  Against this background, the document which Butler had was of considerable importance. I stressed that it was not simply the outcome of deliberations within Sinn Fein. From what we were told, the Provo Army Council was behind it as well and fully...

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 13 Jun 1993, 12:00
  The court case on the constitutionality of the Anglo-Irish Agreement had depended, in part, on the use of the word "would" rather than the word "could" in the Agreement – in reference to consent. The Provo document said that consent "must" be obtained...

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 13 Jun 1993, 12:00
  The Sinn Fein document presented many difficulties in its present form and their view was that it just was not a practicable proposition. Butler was not saying that they rejected the document because of the talks process. They were saying simply that...

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 13 Jun 1993, 12:00
  Experts in the Northern Ireland Office had gone over the document but Minsters together had not had a chance of considering it yet. The Prime Minister would be consulting the NIO Secretary of State in particular on it before the meeting with the...

  People: Robin Butler Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 13 Jun 1993, 12:00
  The time for discussion was now nearing its end. Butler summarised the British position as follows:— (1) The Prime Minister would discuss the proposals with his colleagues; (2) He sympathised with the objectives of the document and recognised the...

  People: Robin Butler Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  SUBJECT TO VERIFICATION SECRET & PERSONAL Tete-a-Tete Meeting Between Taoiseach and Prime Minister Major The meeting took place on 16th June in the Cabinet Room, Downing Street, and lasted just over half-an-hour.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  Apart from the principals, it was attended by Cabinet Secretary Butler,

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  [...] and the under-signed.

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  [...] the Prime Minister's Private Secretary

  People: Alex Allan
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  Comment on Opinion Poll Ratings of World Leaders

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  Apart from the principals, it was attended by Cabinet Secretary Butler, the Prime Minister's Private Secretary and the under-signed.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  The Taoiseach said that he had noted that phenomenon, particularly in relation to Kohl. When the Berlin Wall fell, Kohl's rating was very high but, within about six months or so, he had fallen to the bottom of the scale. The Prime Minister went on to...

  People: John Major Robin Butler Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  Unemployment, Aer Lingus, and Political Issues

  People: John Major Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  Update on Northern Ireland

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  The Taoiseach said there were a number of points he would like to make.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  Talks

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  A certain ideological organisation had made approaches to him, about which he had initially been very sceptical. At the same time, he was very anxious to stop the violence – either that was on the table or he was not interested. Finally, a paper had...

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  The Prime Minister said he was glad to hear of the Taoiseach's continuing support for the talks. Paisley was not at his most cooperative – but we must "keep hope alive".

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  They were extremely grateful to the Taoiseach for letting me brief Butler so fully on the whole background to the new text. The Prime Minister felt that it was important we should know clearly the British view of the text – First, it was a very...

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  They had looked at the text with the very helpful aide memoire which accompanied it. What struck them most about it was what was not in the text – it was a case of the dog that did not bark.

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  We have to be careful about the sensitivities of the Unionists and the sensitivities of the House of Commons, so far as they were concerned the text falls down because (1) as it stood, they felt, it would not be remotely acceptable to the Unionists....

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  Include John Chilcot in the Negotiating Team

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  Role of John Hume

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  In short, the draft was not bearable as it stands but he felt we could try to keep the progress going – there was a huge prize if "it can be done". For him, the test must be how would the document be received by the Cabinet?, by the House of Commons?,...

  People: John Major Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  Include Seán Ó hUiginn in the Negotiating Team

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  [Editors' Note: The Prime Minister implicitly agreed to this proposal, and John Chilcot and Seán Ó hUiginn were duly brought into the negotiating teams.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  Negotiate on JD6

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  On John Hume, he had talks on and off for some time, certainly since 1988. The Taoiseach was not sure that he could be trusted 100% on this particular issue. John Hume is John Hume and sometimes acts as a solo merchant. The clergymen don't trust him...

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  When he had got the original draft, he had rejected areas which he knew would not be remotely acceptable. On the idea of joint self-determination, to which the Prime Minister had referred, the Taoiseach had floated this idea in a speech some time ago...

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  There was no fixed agenda for a united Ireland: certainly no limit as to time. The Unionists had said that if IRA violence stopped then they would stop. They have said that often enough. If the others say they will stop their violence, then, if we got...

  People: John Major Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  The Prime Minister said that this was a matter for the Taoiseach and himself. Neither of them could negotiate with the paramilitaries – and that must be completely clear. Perhaps we could go ahead as we had agreed.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  At this point – approximately 6.40pm – the meeting was joined by Foreign Secretary Hurd, Secretary of State Mayhew, Chilcot, Ambassador Blatherwick and the Irish side for the start of the plenary session. Separate notes are available on this. A...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 11 Feb 1992, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Nally was the main Irish contact for the Joint Declaration initiative.]

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 29 Jun 1993, 12:00
  Some Briefing Points on the Draft Declaration

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 08 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Annotations to the Aide-Mémoire from the Irish Government Accompanying JD6

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  SECRET Report of Meeting at the Cabinet Office, London, July 14, 1993 1. Mr. R. Butler was accompanied by Mr. J. Chilcot. Mr. D. Nally was accompanied by the undersigned. The meeting lasted about 2 hours, over an office lunch.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  1. Mr. R. Butler was accompanied by Mr. J. Chilcot. Mr. D. Nally was accompanied by the undersigned. The meeting lasted about 2 hours, over an office lunch.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Confidentiality

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Irish Government Not Representing the IRA

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  (The British side fully acknowledged this point.)

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  8. Butler asked about the relationship between this initiative and the Hume/Adams talks. The Irish side explained the Taoiseach was greatly concerned to maintain confidentiality. Clearly the key issues had to be dealt with between the Taoiseach and the...

  People: Robin Butler Dermot Nally Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  British Government: Ten Principles

  People: John Major Patrick Mayhew
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This list of principles was handed over to the Irish Government during a meeting held at lunchtime on 14 July 1993.] 18. Towards the close of the meeting Chilcot handed over ten principles (attached; essentially an anthology of stated...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  British Government: Ten Principles

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Report on the Meeting

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  20. Butler said he considered it had been illuminating on both sides. He hoped the British view would be reported to the Taoiseach as one "not of blind intransigence" and that they had taken a constructive approach. They had used the meeting to...

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Timing

  People: John Chilcot Dermot Nally Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Hold a Further Meeting between Parliamentary Recess and Butler's Holidays

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  There was tentative agreement that a further meeting might be envisaged between Parliamentary recess (last week of July) and Butler's holidays (last three weeks of August).

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Comment The British side showed great reticence and hesitation on the underlying idea, a number of very obviously genuine undertainties [sic] on details, and a very clear desire to be considered "constructive" and to keep discussion in play. This...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  22. Asked by Nally how the meeting might be summarised for the interlocutors, Butler suggested it might be said "there had been serious discussions".

  People: Robin Butler Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This document was circulated.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Convey Objections

  People: Dermot Nally Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: No objection was made to this proposal.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Not a Drafting Session

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  19. Nally made clear they had not come for a drafting exercise.

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Martin Mansergh to Convey Gist of British Commentary

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  The main point is that the British will not accept the document as a draft on which they will work – but they may, in time, come to accept the principles on which it is based. However, before we reach that point, the objections they make must be taken...

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  I am at present in London but will be available in Dublin from Thursday, 22 July. Dermot Nally 14 July, 1993.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  British Government: Ten Principles

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 23 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Notes on Recent Meeting

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  SECRET Meeting in Cabinet Office, London 4th August, 1993 1. The meeting began at 3.00 pm and lasted approximately one and a half hours.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  Present were Sir R. Butler, Mr. J. Chilcot, Mr. D. Nally and M. S. O hUiginn.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 29 Jul 1993, 18:00
  SECRET Dinner with Mr. John Chilcot I had dinner in London with Mr. John Chilcot on 29 July. Although the occasion was a social one, our conversation naturally turned repeatedly to Northern Ireland.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  Maastricht Vote

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  Select Committee

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  Proceed with JD6

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  8. O hUiggin said there was a deeper question. The present initiative, whatever its details, inevitably involved grasping nettles and political risk. Had Mr. Major lost the capacity or the room for manoeuvre to do that? Chilcot said it was a "two-way...

  People: John Chilcot Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  He stressed the difference between a Select Committee and a policy initiative by the Government. Differences about intergovernmental relationships could be managed, but taking issue with the House of Commons was less retrievable. For the Irish...

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  He hoped by Autumn the two Governments would have resumed a political agenda based on the three stranded approach and Mayhew would say something to this effect before the weekend.

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  9. Butler reverted to the question whether recent events made this initiative a "dead duck". No-one had suggested that to them. He felt the situation remained as before. The Government could go ahead only if the proposition was defensible and the words...

  People: Robin Butler Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  He asked the British side how they interpreted the recent events. 5. Butler said he understood the concerns. There had also been scepticism in the British press about a deal. No official had taken part in the negotiations but they had been briefed,...

  People: John Chilcot Robin Butler Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  7. O hUiginn pointed out that a perception of a pro-unionist tilt by the British Government would give an added symbolic charge to anything done to meet the unionist agenda. There would be inevitable public pressures on the Irish Government to address...

  People: Robin Butler Dermot Nally Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  Chilcot said there were vastly different political weights attached to this initiative and a Select Committee. The former was very big indeed.

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  Nally stressed the kudos which would be attached to achieving peace in Northern Ireland and ending the violence which had been endemic in Northern Ireland ever since its foundation. Chilcot said it was the paramilitaries, and no-one else, who were...

  People: Dermot Nally John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  Suggest Amendments to JD6 Now

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  Chilcot said it would be essential for the text to make clear that no single outcome was inevitable.

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  11. Butler said that to suggest new wording went beyond their instructions. They could say what was not acceptable. They did not wish to be drawn into saying "that's better" and thereby committing the British Government to something they were still...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  Irish Government to Continue Drafting

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  Thomas to Elaborate on JD6

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  14. O hUiginn said that further authoritative elaboration of the British position could only be helpful.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  Nally recalled that a Summit was scheduled before the end of the year and there would be a need to consider its outcome. Butler said they "could not jump yet". They would of course need to know before such a meeting if the Prime Ministers were likely...

  People: Robin Butler Dermot Nally Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  British Government to Confirm that Positive Reaction from Unionism Cannot Be Expected

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  Butler said that that particular filter was not in their plan.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  Chilcot said Mayhew would very shortly be affirming the British Government remained attached to the three-stranded analysis.

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  Hold a Further Meeting on 10 September 1993

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  [Editors' Note: 'it was agreed'.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  Sean O hUiginn 6 August, 1993

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 06 Jun 1993, 18:00
  Joint Declaration: JD6

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  However it would be misleading to think this great objective could be achieved as it were, "for free". Unless there was a willingness to revisit the dilemmas of the 1920s in an innovative way it was unlikely that this initiative could come to fruition....

  People: John Chilcot Dermot Nally Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 06 Jun 1993, 18:00
  Aide-Mémoire from the Irish Government Accompanying JD6

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 29 Jul 1993, 18:00
  [Editors' Note: Ò hUginn and Chilcot discussed Northern Ireland and the Joint Declaration initiative over dinner.]

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 29 Jul 1993, 18:00
  [Editors' Note: Ò hUginn and Chilcot discussed Northern Ireland and the Joint Declaration initiative over dinner.]

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 29 Jul 1993, 18:00
  I had dinner in London with Mr. John Chilcot on 29 July. [...] Seán Ó hUiginn

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 29 Jul 1993, 18:00
  Nally-Butler Discussions 2. Chilcot projected a strong message that this particular agenda had not been "estopped", as he put it, by the new Tory/Unionist relationship. It remained of great interest to his principals, including, he stressed, to Sir...

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 29 Jul 1993, 18:00
  Chilcot to Confirm Butler-Nally Meeting on 4 August 1993

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 29 Jul 1993, 18:00
  He said he would endeavour to confirm a meeting on 4th August for a further Nally-Butler meeting to take forward the discussion.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 29 Jul 1993, 18:00
  4. I again urged the importance of the initiative, and the significance the Taoiseach attached to it.

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 29 Jul 1993, 18:00
  Talks

  People: John Chilcot Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 29 Jul 1993, 18:00
  Select Committee

  People: John Chilcot Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 29 Jul 1993, 18:00
  Meeting Between Dick Spring and Patrick Mayhew in September

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 29 Jul 1993, 18:00
  Hold a Summit in October

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 29 Jul 1993, 18:00
  I said that political discussion could only be helpful.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 29 Jul 1993, 18:00
  The Taoiseach was anxious to maintain his good working relationship with Mr. Major. However the presentational aspects would also have to be considered. The perceived shift in British positions was likely to cause serious political pressures on the...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 29 Jul 1993, 18:00
  Seán O hUiginn 30 July, 1993

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  SECRET Butler-Nally Process Meeting with Mr. Quentin Thomas 1. I had a meeting with Mr. Quentin Thomas in London on 1st September, 1993. The meeting had been suggested at the last Nally-Butler meeting by Mr. Chilcot, possible as a way around the...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Ó hUiginn met with Thomas to discuss JD6 and suggest potential language in an informal context.]

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Ó hUiginn met with Thomas to discuss JD6 and suggest potential language in an informal context.]

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  2. I began by again urging the significance of what seemed to be on offer – a cessation of violence on the part of the Provisionals in return, not for their traditional demand of British withdrawal at a specified time, but for a change in the terms of...

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 06 Jun 1993, 18:00
  [Editors' Note: Quentin Thomas was involved with the Joint Declaration initiative.]

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 31 Aug 1993, 12:00
  Constitutional Issues

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 31 Aug 1993, 12:00
  7. [...] After some further general discussion (on the lines already reported on in various Liaison Group meetings) he showed, and later gave me, as a kind of "exercise-book", he said, formulations which might be used for constitutional balance in any...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Constitutional Issues

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  8. I said as an initial reaction I found the first sentence an interesting one. I did not know how much the actual word self-determination was crucial but it seemed to be that something which said that the future of Northern Ireland was to be decided...

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  11. Comment: It is understandably easier for the British to consider "political movement" in the wider context. It is probably also easier in terms of our own domestic politics if a cessation were to come as a response to a wider intergovernmental...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 07 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Letter from Albert Reynolds to John Major (7 September 1993)

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 07 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This letter was sent to John Major on 7 September 1993.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 07 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Letter from Albert Reynolds to John Major (7 September 1993)

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  SECRET Meeting of Nally/Butler Group London, 10th September, 1993

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  2. Nally recalled the terms of the Taoiseach's letter. The outcome of the last meeting had been reported to him. He felt time was not on our side and had wanted to give a political impetus to the discussion. He felt the necessary ingredients for a...

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  In short, the text as it stood, would not really run.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  British Commentary on JD6

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  British Commentary on JD6

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  British Government Commentary on JD6: Include an Explicit Reference to Northern Irish Consent in Paragraph 4

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  Principles for a British-Irish Joint Declaration: No Specification of Time-Scale

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:00
  British Government Commentary on JD6: British Government Not to Persuade

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  5. Butler availed of an interval when staff were bringing coffee to say that there might be a misapprehension underlying the Taoiseach's letter which should be put right. They were acting under the very close direction of the Prime Minister and there...

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Comment 14. The meeting made very clear that the British are not ready to begin a drafting exercise in this forum. They were at pains however to avoid any negative connotation and to convey a clear willingness to pursue the key issues in good faith in...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 15 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Reflections on Possible Constitutional Change

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 11 Feb 1992, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Martin Mansergh was involved in the Joint Declaration initiative and was the main Irish contact with Sinn Féin.]

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 08 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Annotations to JD6

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Separate Northern Irish Right to Self-Determination

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  No Legislation before Agreement

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Clarification of Language Re 'Measures'

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Removal of 'Independent' and 'Unity'

  People: Robin Butler John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Subsidiary British Issues with JD6

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Principles for Inclusion in a Joint Declaration

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Butler concluded by asking the Irish side what they saw as the net effect of paragraph 4 and what their view was of what would happen if it were implemented. A "basis for peace" was very vague.

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Integrate the Joint Declaration with Strand 3

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Managing the Unionist Response

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  The conflict had colossal human and material costs. It would continue until something changed. The Talks might have achieved that, but they had gone down a blind alley, in spite of our best efforts.

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  British Commentary on JD6

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Self-Determination

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Consent Principle

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  He noted that for the British self-determination was the key difficulty.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  The points relating to past failures and European union could readily be resolved. It was helpful that the British acknowledged that a failure of unionist participation did not mean the Convention should not go ahead.

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  He concluded by urging again the importance of the initiative. If, as was likely, the Talks failed to materialise, the Governments could not allow a political vacuum.

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  9. O hUiginn stressed the IRA were ideology bound, and were difficult to reach except in ideological terms. On the other hand an ideological shift by them was of correspondingly great significance. The Taoiseach always concentrated on the bottom line....

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Self-Determination and Consent to Balance One Another

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  10. Butler objected that it went in one direction only – towards unity. O hUiginn said that it encompassed exactly the two options for Northern Ireland mentioned in Article 1 of the Anglo-Irish Agreement.

  People: Robin Butler Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  12. Butler reverted to his question about "legislation over a period".

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Chilcot asked whether self-determination had only one permissible outcome.

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  O hUiginn said the concept of consent was basic. The Taoiseach had insisted on this as the sine-qua-non for any further action. It followed that the "legislative action", admittedly unclear in the text, involved either legislative recognition of the...

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  13. On Chilcot's point, whether self-determination would be accepted as legitimate if it involved something other than unity, i.e. agreement to differ, the Irish side said the whole traditional logic of the IRA position was such that they would find it...

  People: Dermot Nally Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  British Government Not to Join the Persuaders for Unity

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  British Government to Encourage Unspecified Inter-Irish Agreement

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  14. Chilcot said that their best information was that the "demographic shift" was a myth. It related to one particular age-cohort, which would not be repeated. Given that some Catholics were likely to be pro-union there was no forseeable prospect of a...

  People: John Chilcot Dermot Nally Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  16. Chilcot thought the Provos might have concluded that things were not going their way and needed to sell to their troops some outcome which gave them involvement. The Convention served that purpose. The British Government would be sympathetic,...

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  British Government to Move from Their Position to Secure a Ceasefire

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This seems to be accepted implicitly by the Irish government.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  17. In reply to a question from Nally there was a brief discussion on how the unionist dimension might be managed in the event of the initiative materialising. Chilcot thought Eames might be helpful. He was dismissive of McGimpsey and thought Robinson...

  People: John Chilcot Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Both delegations reported back on the points of convergence and divergence under discussion during the meeting.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Principles for Inclusion in a Joint Declaration

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 23 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Resolution to Negotiate on JD6 as an Irish Government Proposal

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 23 Jul 1993, 12:00
  We do not propose to go back to our intermediaries on a piecemeal basis, but with an improved text, as amended and agreed.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 23 Jul 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This course of action is put to the British Government.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Replace Self-Determination with Agreed Inter-Irish Mechanisms

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Nally said paragraph 4 of the declaration had been carefully worked on and change would be correspondingly difficult. He noted Chilcot's implied suggestion that the notion of self-determination might be excluded but a mechanism substituted that went in...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Both delegations reported back on the points of convergence and divergence under discussion during the meeting.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Both delegations reported back on the points of convergence and divergence under discussion during the meeting.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Self-Determination

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Replace Self-Determination with Agreed Inter-Irish Mechanisms

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 23 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Specific Points raised 4. The concept of self-determination is critical, but we could take on board as well the concept of inter-Irish agreement, which is implicit in the text. One concept is ideological, the other pragmatic. There is merit in both...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  This eased the question Nally had asked at the last meeting about the British capacity to influence the unionists. This could become easier as time went on.

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  10. Nally suggested that with Unionists' backs secured the British Government were in a position to present the declaration to them as what the British Government wished to see in place. The Irish Government wished to get people talking. They were not...

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 28 Jul 1993, 18:00
  2. Chilcot projected a strong message that this particular agenda had not been "estopped", as he put it, by the new Tory/Unionist relationship. It remained of great interest to his principals, including, he stressed, to Sir Patrick Mayhew, with whom he...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 11 Feb 1992, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Seán Ó hUiginn was also involved in the Joint Declaration initiative.]

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:40
  [Editors' Note: In a tête-à-tête meeting between Major and Reynolds held on 16 June 1993 at 18.00, it was decided that John Chilcot should be invited to join the negotiating team (ie. the Butler/Nally meetings).]

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:40
  [Editors' Note: In a tête-à-tête meeting between Major and Reynolds held on 16 June 1993 at 18.00, it was decided that Seán Ó hUiginn should be invited to join the negotiating team (ie. the Butler/Nally meetings).]

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Convey Objections

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Principles for Inclusion in a Joint Declaration

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Self-Determination

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Replace Self-Determination with Agreed Inter-Irish Mechanisms

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  British Government: Ten Principles

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  British Government: Ten Principles

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Convey Objections

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  British Commentary on JD6

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Principles for Inclusion in a Joint Declaration

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Self-Determination

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Replace Self-Determination with Agreed Inter-Irish Mechanisms

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Principles for Inclusion in a Joint Declaration

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Self-Determination

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  Replace Self-Determination with Agreed Inter-Irish Mechanisms

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 29 Jul 1993, 18:00
  I pointed out the legalistic approach to self-determination, which the British were perhaps uncomfortable with, could actually be an asset: an ideal theoretical position could be invoked based on early legal precedent, and there could be an agreed...

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  2. Sir Robin Butler recalled that at the last meeting they had looked at the draft document sent by the Taoiseach. They had applauded the objective but had expressed doubts whether the draft would fulfil that objective or could be "saleable". Their...

  People: Robin Butler Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  Resolution to Negotiate on JD6 as an Irish Government Proposal

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  Importance of Joint Declaration as Balancing Gesture

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  He added that he saw no profit in the balance envisaged by Nally – the Government was not thinking in terms of finding something for unionists.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  They would note the request and respond in September.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 16:30
  Resolution to Negotiate on JD6 as an Irish Government Proposal

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 04 Aug 1993, 15:00
  12. O hUiginn agreed that the initiative was a major one and therefore it made sense to proceed only in a deliberate way. It was important to recall certain realities. This was not a negotiation with the Irish Government. The Taoiseach and the Tanaiste...

  People: John Chilcot Robin Butler Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Principles for Inclusion in a Joint Declaration

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Self-Determination

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  3. I said that for the British to "join the persuaders" for Irish unity would take all the tricks on the nationalist side. They had repeatedly told us that this was impossible for the present Government. The question therefore was how they could...

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Self-Determination as Current Legal Position

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  British Neutrality to Develop from Passive to Proactive

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Joint Declaration as Strand 3 Position

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  6. Thomas said that Sir Robin Butler had had no instructions about redrafting the text on "political movement" and neither had he. (Note: The British have a bureaucratic shorthand where "political movement" refers to the search for an end to violence,...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  10. I stressed that the "political movement" document would require a response in its own terms. The Talks process could be used in a complementary way but not in any way blotting it out. Thomas accepted fully that a cessation, if it could be achieved,...

  People: Quentin Thomas Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  7. While "self-determination" for Ireland was a difficult concept for them, Thomas did not totally rule out some form of qualified reference to it with careful drafting.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: The conclusions of the meeting were circulated.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: The conclusions of the meeting were circulated.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: The conclusions of the meeting were circulated.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: The text on constitutional issues handed over by Quentin Thomas during the meeting was circulated.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Principles for Inclusion in a Joint Declaration

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Self-Determination

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  British Neutrality to Develop from Passive to Proactive

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Constitutional Issues

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 13:00
  Constitutional Issues

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 13:00
  Constitutional Issues

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 13:00
  Principles for Inclusion in a Joint Declaration

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 13:00
  Self-Determination

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 13:00
  British Neutrality to Develop from Passive to Proactive

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 13:00
  Principles for Inclusion in a Joint Declaration

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 13:00
  Self-Determination

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 13:00
  British Neutrality to Develop from Passive to Proactive

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 13:00
  Principles for Inclusion in a Joint Declaration

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 13:00
  Self-Determination

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 01 Sep 1993, 13:00
  British Neutrality to Develop from Passive to Proactive

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Conference: Plenary Sessions, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  SECRET Meeting of Anglo-Irish Conference (10 September) SUMMARY NOTE

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Conference: Plenary Sessions, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Talks

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Conference: Plenary Sessions, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Patrick Mayhew was a member of the Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Conference.]

  People: Patrick Mayhew
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Conference: Plenary Sessions, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Dick Spring was a member of the Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Conference.]

  People: Dick Spring
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Conference: Plenary Sessions, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Máire Geoghegan-Quinn was a member of the Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Conference.]

  People: Máire Geoghegan-Quinn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Conference: Plenary Sessions, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  He also pointed out that the Government could not determine its attitude without some sense of how the bilaterals with the parties were proceeding.

  People: Dick Spring
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Conference: Plenary Sessions, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Maastricht Vote

  People: Patrick Mayhew Dick Spring
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Conference: Plenary Sessions, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  US Peace Envoy

  People: Patrick Mayhew Dick Spring
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Conference: Plenary Sessions, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Loyalist Paramilitary Threat to the Republic

  People: British Government Representative Máire Geoghegan-Quinn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Conference: Plenary Sessions, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: The meeting adjourned.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  1. Butler recalled the British position as set out at the last meeting. The Prime Minister wanted to react constructively but the present text “would not do”.

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  They had tried to give positive pointers via Quentin Thomas (Chilcot’s deputy at the NIO).

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Nally illustrated this point by listing the various components as he personally saw them – the common commitment to a democratic solution, the British neutrality statement, the agreement there should be no change without consent and,

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  as was now proposed, an acknowledgement of joint self-determination subject to these qualifications.

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  He recalled the references to inter-Irish agreement in the Quentin Thomas paper. (Chilcot broke in to say that was “pivotal”).

  People: Dermot Nally John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Paragraph 4 to Be Open to Amendment

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  3. In further exchanges Nally confirmed, in response to questions, that the actual language of paragraph 4 was not viewed as sacrosanct,

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Articles 2 and 3 to Be Open to Change

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  that Articles 2 and 3 could be open to change in the context of a settlement likely to win popular endorsement,

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Include Reassurance to the Unionist Community

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  and that the Irish Government was fully conscious of the need for reassurance to the unionist community also.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Self-Determination via Dual Referendum

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  6. Discussion resumed on Hume’s idea of a dual referendum. The Irish side explained that it could serve two purposes – laying the ghost of the doctrine that the collective will of the Irish people as expressed in the 1918 election had been denied...

  People: Dermot Nally Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  O hUiginn added that political pressures on Hume, which might lead him to develop his talks with Adams in problematic ways, were also a factor for urgency. 7. Butler stressed again that they agreed on the need for urgency.

  People: Robin Butler Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  The Irish knew the difficulties they had about involving themselves in negotiating the text. Their concept was that the Taoiseach had taken the initiative. That was welcome, as were the objectives.

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  However, the text was not right. They were doing everything they could to say why not.

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  If it was the Irish position that this text was the last word and this alone was acceptable to the Provos, then “it wouldn’t fly”.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  4. There was then some rather general and inconclusive discussion on whether or how the right of the Irish people to choose their own future could be reconciled with, in Chilcot’s words, “the separate exercise of Northern Ireland doing so as a separate...

  People: John Chilcot Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Text Could Not Be Expected to Attract Unionist Approval

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Butler demurred and signalled that the criterion of unionist approval in that sense was not uppermost in their minds.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Confidentiality

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  12. Butler said a reply to the Taoiseach’s letter would issue towards the middle of the following week. It would be on the lines that the Prime Minister shared the objective, that the present text would not work, that talks continue on it, the...

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Possible Review Meeting on 7 October 1993

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  13. It was agreed to consult later about whether there would be a further meeting of the Butler-Nally group, say around 7th October, to review matters. Butler indicated they would be willing to travel to Ireland for this.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Resolution to Mandate the Liaison Group to Create a Joint Framework Document

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Resolution to Use the Language from the Joint Framework Document to Solve Paragraph 4

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  4. In parallel, he would like the two Governments to work closely in the Liaison Group over the next four to six weeks in order to identify the elements of a package likely to be acceptable to all participants. The objective would be a “joint framework...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  There was a way open to carry matters forward by looking in the Talks context at alternative ways of meeting difficulties, and the result of that exercise could be used to carry the Provos also. Chilcot repeated they were not able to engage in a...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Conference: Plenary Sessions, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Resolution to Mandate the Liaison Group to Create a Joint Framework Document

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Conference: Plenary Sessions, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Resolution to Secure Peace

  People: Máire Geoghegan-Quinn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Conference: Plenary Sessions, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: 'The Minister for Justice sought (and received) confirmation'.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Conference: Plenary Sessions, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  8. It was also emphasized by the Irish side that the question of constitutional balance raised issues of the highest political importance for the Government and would necessitate the most careful reflection and consultation at political level in...

  People: Irish Government Representative Dick Spring
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Conference: Plenary Sessions, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  10. It was agreed that the Liaison Group would “use its best endeavours” between now and the next meeting of the Conference (proposed for 27 October) to formulate a joint assessment of what might be acceptable to all participants in order to achieve...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Conference: Plenary Sessions, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: The decision taken at the Conference was circulated and discussed in other committees.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Resolution to Mandate the Liaison Group to Create a Joint Framework Document

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Anglo-Irish Intergovernmental Conference: Plenary Sessions, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  5. This document would serve to “focus the minds” of the Governments and would not be presented to the parties. The Secretary of State hopes, however, that it would enable him to persuade the Unionists that the Governments had addressed the...

  People: Patrick Mayhew Dick Spring
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Resolution to Use the Language from the Joint Framework Document to Solve Paragraph 4

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  From the separate discussion of a joint framework document (relating to the three-stranded Talks) the Irish side knew that they were perfectly prepared to look at a further draft.

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  11. Chilcot said the Intergovernmental Conference envisaged a paper being developed between and by the two Governments, without final commitment, to address the key issues and the approach which, in the best judgement of both Governments, could win the...

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  There was a way open to carry matters forward by looking in the Talks context at alternative ways of meeting difficulties, and the result of that exercise could be used to carry the Provos also. Chilcot repeated they were not able to engage in a...

  People: Dermot Nally John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  8. O hUiginn said this would be put to the Taoiseach and his instructions awaited.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  From what we knew of his position he might well be concerned that this could throw away much laborious effort on the other draft. Secondly, the implied condition of unionist endorsement could undermine the capacity to get the balance right in terms of...

  People: John Chilcot Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  In response to Nally, Butler again confirmed “We are not putting this text into the other group. This is ours. Rather we want to see whether we can borrow from the other group ways of solving paragraph 4”. Nally again urged that the importance of a...

  People: Robin Butler Dermot Nally John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Nally said he could not anticipate the Taoiseach’s reaction but he might well say “why don’t you work on the present text?” Chilcot said that Ministers had tasked the Liaison Groups and he hoped the Taoiseach would accept the “dual utility” of the...

  People: Dermot Nally John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Resolution to Mandate the Liaison Group to Create a Joint Framework Document

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Resolution to Use the Language from the Joint Framework Document to Solve Paragraph 4

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Resolution to Mandate the Liaison Group to Create a Joint Framework Document

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Anglo-Irish Liaison Group, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Resolution to Mandate the Liaison Group to Create a Joint Framework Document

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Resolution to Mandate the Liaison Group to Create a Joint Framework Document

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Resolution to Mandate the Liaison Group to Create a Joint Framework Document

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Resolution to Use the Language from the Joint Framework Document to Solve Paragraph 4

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Resolution to Use the Language from the Joint Framework Document to Solve Paragraph 4

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Mansergh met Chilcot in the margins of the British-Irish Association Conference.]

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Mansergh met Chilcot in the margins of the British-Irish Association Conference.]

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  British-Irish Association Conference, Cambridge, 10-12 September 1993. Private Meetings with Mayhew and Chilcot I had two substantial discussions with the Northern Ireland Secretary, Sir Patrick Mayhew and John Chilcot. I met Chilcot first,...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Butler, Nally, Chilcot and Ó hUiginn were all present for this meeting.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Chilcot went over, for my benefit, some of the ground discussed at the Conference and at the Butler/Nally meeting. He made it clear that their position was not based on either a lack of interest or a determination to pursue some alternative policy....

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  The working method they were proposing was to have the Liaison Group in Strand III meet to discuss a framework and in particular the scope for constitutional change.

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  The language developed there could then be incorporated into the draft declaration and at that point they would be able to work with the declaration, or at least assist us to actively redraft it. What he was also effectively saying was that they needed...

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: The rest of the document concerns a meeting between Mansergh and Mayhew.]

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: The rest of the document concerns a meeting between Mansergh and Mayhew.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: The rest of the document concerns a meeting between Mansergh and Mayhew.]

  People: Patrick Mayhew
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: The first meeting took place between Mansergh and Chilcot.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: The second meeting took place between Mansergh and Mayhew.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Public Statements Mayhew was upbeat about the prospect of resumed talks, albeit with a much greater element of bilateral diplomacy. He assumed the DUP would not be involved initially, but might be later, when they saw things beginning to happen...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Sir Patrick Mayhew made clear his strong interest in the peace initiative, which he referred to as “an enormous prize”.

  People: Patrick Mayhew
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Hume/Adams Talks

  People: Martin Mansergh Patrick Mayhew
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  He also discussed his difficulties with it.

  People: Patrick Mayhew
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  He was clearly jolted by the Taoiseach’s letter and claimed it had caused “some dismay”.

  People: Patrick Mayhew
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  They do not want to do anything that can be construed as getting into negotiations with the PIRA. But he said he needed to know where we stood on constitutional change, and then they would be able to see what they could do on their side that might...

  People: Patrick Mayhew Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  He complained to me the following morning about a degree of procrastination since April on our side. I filled him in on the domestic political background (and indeed the use in the early part of the year within Fianna Fáil of Articles 2 and 3 as a...

  People: Patrick Mayhew Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Mayhew accepts that PIRA/SF are essentially one organisation, and that their leadership does not want, if an acceptable way out can be found, to continue fighting a war for 10-15 years. He also accepted my point that in common with the old IRA they...

  People: Patrick Mayhew Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Prisoners

  People: Patrick Mayhew Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Mayhew's Family Background

  People: Martin Mansergh Patrick Mayhew
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: The meeting adjourned.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 12 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: The meeting adjourned.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  SECRET Report of Meeting between John Hume and Prime Minister Major 16th September, 1993 1. I spoke to Mr. Hume recently about the meeting which he had with the British Prime Minister on the 16th September.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 16 Sep 1993, 12:00
  SECRET Report of Meeting between John Hume and Prime Minister Major 16th September, 1993 1. I spoke to Mr. Hume recently about the meeting which he had with the British Prime Minister on the 16th September. [Editors' Note: 'I' here refers to Ó...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 16 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Major was present for this meeting.]

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 16 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Mayhew was present for this meeting.]

  People: Patrick Mayhew
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 16 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Chilcot was present for this meeting.]

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 16 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Hume met with Major, who was accompanied by Mayhew and Chilcot.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 16 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Hume/Adams Talks

  People: John Major John Hume
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  1. I spoke to Mr. Hume recently about the meeting which he had with the British Prime Minister on the 16th September.

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  1. I spoke to Mr. Hume recently about the meeting which he had with the British Prime Minister on the 16th September.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 16 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Self-Determination

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 16 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Decommissioning

  People: John Major John Hume
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 16 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Talks

  People: John Major John Hume
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 16 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Hume to Assist in the Drafting of JD6

  People: John Hume
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 16 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Mr. Major indicated that they were looking at that aspect and that they would discuss it with him in due course.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 16 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Chilcot to Fix a Time to Meet with Hume to Discuss JD6

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 16 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: No objection was made to this proposal.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 16 Sep 1993, 12:00
  4. As regards the three-stranded talks, Hume made clear that there was no need to ask the SDLP about their attitude. If the British issued a call to the table, the SDLP would be there in the morning. He also made the point that when the British called...

  People: John Hume
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 16 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Signed: Sean] Sean O hUiginn 24 September

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Hume-Adams, Date: 22 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Hume/Adams Statement (2)

  People: Gerry Adams John Hume
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Hume-Adams, Date: 22 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This draft of the statement was discussed with the Irish Government on 22 September 1993.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 22 Sep 1993, 18:00
  [Editors' Note: Since Ó hUiginn does not specify which parts of the conversation happened in the brief meeting on the morning of the 23 September 1993 as opposed to on the evening of 22 September 1993, we have modelled the events of the meetings in...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 22 Sep 1993, 18:00
  [Editors' Note: Ó hUiginn was present for this meeting.]

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 22 Sep 1993, 18:00
  [Editors' Note: The remainder of the meeting is modelled in the following three sessions of this committee.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 22 Sep 1993, 18:00
  SECRET 1. I had extensive discussions with John Hume on the evening of the 22nd September and, briefly on the morning of the 23rd September, about a proposal he had to issue a statement on the Hume-Adams talks.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 22 Sep 1993, 18:00
  Take No Action until Approval from the Taoiseach

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 22 Sep 1993, 18:00
  Hume/Adams Statement (2)

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 22 Sep 1993, 18:00
  2. I reacted in the strongest possible terms against this proposal. I said that a statement that Hume and Adams had agreed proposals to the Governments would be the focus of intense media interest. There would be unbearable pressures both on Hume...

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 22 Sep 1993, 18:00
  6. Hume seemed to take these arguments on board and in my hearing, rang his clerical contact and assured me that no action would be taken for a couple of weeks.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 12:00
  7. On my arrival back from Derry on 23rd I learned that Mr. Hume in fact had been in contact with the Taoiseach on that day. [Editors' Note: We do not have a first-hand record of this meeting.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 12:00
  7. On my arrival back from Derry on 23rd I learned that Mr. Hume in fact had been in contact with the Taoiseach on that day.

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 12:00
  7. On my arrival back from Derry on 23rd I learned that Mr. Hume in fact had been in contact with the Taoiseach on that day.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Ó hUiginn was present for this meeting.]

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 12:00
  I rang him again

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 12:00
  I rang him again

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 12:00
  I rang him again and reiterated many of the above points to him, making clear that I thought the course he proposed would be a monumental mistake both in terms of the project everybody wanted to succeed and in terms of his own standing and prestige....

  People: John Hume Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 12:00
  No Statement to Be Published before Report on Friday Meeting

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: 'I confirmed'.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: The rest of the report is modelled in the following session in this committee.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Reynolds to Report to Hume on the Meeting

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 12:00
  He said that the Taoiseach had undertaken to come back to him after our contact with the British tomorrow to let him know the result. If the message was that the draft was being considered in a positive light, then he would hold off.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Drop Proposal if British Agree to Negotiate on JD6

  People: John Hume
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 12:00
  He seemed under the impression that he had got a green or “amber” light for proceeding. (He is well-known in his political life generally for hearing, in all good faith, only those things he wants to hear from his contacts).

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 12:00
  He said that the Taoiseach had undertaken to come back to him after our contact with the British tomorrow to let him know the result. If the message was that the draft was being considered in a positive light, then he would hold off. 9. I made it...

  People: John Hume Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 22 Sep 1993, 18:00
  [Editors' Note: This proposal was reported to the Irish government delegation.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 22 Sep 1993, 18:00
  Hume/Adams Statement (2)

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Signed: Sean] Sean O hUiginn 24 September, 1993 SECRET Text as read out by John Hume Our discussion aimed at the creation of a peace process involving both Governments and all parties have made considerable progress. We have suspended our...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Reply from John Major to Albert Reynolds (24 September 1993)

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Although this letter was dated 24 September 1993, it was not handed over until 1 October 1993.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: JD8, or the 'revised draft' was handed over to Thomas by Ó hUiginn during a meeting on 24 September 1993.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Thomas was present at this meeting.]

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Ó hUiginn was present at this meeting.]

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  SECRET Meeting with Quentin Thomas, NIO London, 24 September, 1993

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  1. I had a meeting with Quentin Thomas of the NIO on the 24th September.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  I began by reiterating yet again the importance which the Taoiseach attached to the Declaration. He was persuaded there was now a unique opportunity to work for peace which should be availed of by both Governments. He believed a cessation of violence...

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  2. I said the Taoiseach had listened carefully to the points reported to him from the Nally-Butler Group.

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  He was prepared to shoulder the responsibility on his side. He had no problem with the somewhat oblique method the British had proposed for working on the concepts involved in the text, provided this did not in any way mean the initiative was being...

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Joint Declaration: JD8

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [...] explaining the various changes which had been made and the ways in which we believed they should meet the objections raised by the British.

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  3. Thomas recalled the mandate given to the Liaison Group at the last Intergovernmental Conference.

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  He also recalled the understanding reached at the Nally-Butler meeting.

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Thomas to Discuss the Text in Detail

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Note that Thomas is Acting in a Personal Capacity

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: 'he nevertheless raised no difficulty, subject to that official reservation, about discussing the text in detail.']

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Note on the Importance of the Joint Declaration to the Taoiseach

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: 'He said he would convey again to his people the points I had made about the importance the Taoiseach attached to the initiative.']

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  5. As regards “meshing” the Declaration with the work of the Liaison Group, Thomas said there was a clear mandate from the Intergovernmental Conference to continue working on the Talks process and he later put forward a draft paper for consideration at...

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Proceed with the Declaration

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Seek to Integrate the Declaration with the Talks Process

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  I said that the Taoiseach felt, given the psychology of the group it was aimed at, that the Declaration should be handled on its own terms, rather than introducing any complicating factors, which could best be looked at when violence was out of the way.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This proposal was not discussed further.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  6. We had a discussion on the issue of self-determination.

  People: Quentin Thomas Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  I confirmed in reply to his queries that our side attached considerable importance to using the actual words, given the psychology of the people the Declaration was aimed at.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Inclusion of the British Guarantee

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  In further discussions Thomas said that he felt the new text was very clearly a better one and would receive the most careful consideration on his side.

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Four Building Blocks for a Joint Declaration (Paragraph 4)

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  8. I said that I found the sentence on self-determination he had quoted of interest.

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Stronger Language on Self-Determination

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  After further discussion he conceded that they might be prepared to consider referring to the exercise of “their rights of self-determination".

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  I said I felt that would make it a sentence worth studying on our side.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Negotiate Informally on JD8

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Thomas listed the following areas:

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Paragraph 4 of JD8 as Revised by Thomas and Ó hUiginn

  People: Quentin Thomas Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Sentence 1

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Take 'Political' Out Again

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  I said the entire sentence was governed by the word “selfish”.

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  On that basis he thought they might possibly live with it.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  On that basis he thought they might possibly live with it.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Sentence 2

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  He thought they could also live with the second sentence. It had a clear connotation of unity in the island, which was a shift for them, but he felt that if the context was right they could accept it.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Sentence 3

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  10. We had a long discussion on the third sentence. I pointed out that it was geared towards the future. The clear implication was that there was no North-South agreement on any form of self-determination for Ireland as a whole at present. The British...

  People: Quentin Thomas Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Change 'freely agreed' to 'secures agreement'

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  I thought that that should not present major difficulties on our side.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Thomas raised no further objections to this sentence.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Sentence 4

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Thomas did not raise any objections to sentence 4.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Sentence 5

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Remove 'joint'

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  He thought this might introduce ambiguity on the crucial point for them, which was the notion of separate choice for Northern Ireland. I said that had been made clear higher up in the text,

  People: Quentin Thomas Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Bracket 'joint' for Further Consideration

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This was tacitly agreed.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This was tacitly agreed.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Sentences 6 and 7

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Thomas did not raise any further objections to sentence 5.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  12. Thomas felt that the next sentence was placed so close to the mention of agreed independent structures in Ireland that the connotation that the British Government was “joining the ranks of the persuaders” for Irish unity was too strong. The British...

  People: Quentin Thomas Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Swap Sentences 6 and 7

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Thomas thought that might be an improvement

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Replace 'unity' with an Appropriate Alternative

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  I said we would think over the possibilities of expressing the notion in alternative ways.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Thomas did not raise any further objections to sentences 6 and 7.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  14. While Thomas made clear his involvement was personal at this point, his approach to the entire exercise was positive and helpful. He said it was a better text and, generally, gave me the impression that he felt an agreed text was within reach. He...

  People: Quentin Thomas Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Further Consultation on 1 October 1993

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: 'We agreed'.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Keep the Declaration Secret from the Liaison Group

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  He agreed the drafting of the Declaration should be kept separate from that forum.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Framework Agreement

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  I said we would consider it carefully and would be giving thought to preparation of a paper of our own.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Managing the Unionist Response

  People: Quentin Thomas Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  DUP 'Breaking the Logjam' Paper

  People: Quentin Thomas Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Signed: Sean] Sean O hUiginn 25 September, 1993

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Framework Agreement

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Joint Declaration: JD8

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Paragraph 4 of JD8 as Revised by Thomas and Ó hUiginn

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Framework Agreement

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  17. I alerted him also, in confidence, to the proposal which Hume had put, that the outcome of the Hume-Adams talks should be referred to both Governments. I made clear our firm opposition to it and our hope that Hume was now persuaded of the dangers...

  People: Quentin Thomas Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This revised paragraph was reported to the Irish government delegation in an attachment to the minute.] Amendments which Mr. Thomas felt would be helpful on our revised Paragraph 4 4. The Prime Minister reiterates on behalf of the...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Joint Declaration: JD8

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Paragraph 4 of JD8 as Revised by Thomas and Ó hUiginn

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This document was circulated as one of the conclusions of the meeting.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Magee Bilaterals, Date: 29 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Mansergh attended this meeting.]

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Magee Bilaterals, Date: 29 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Meeting with Reverend Roy Magee —————————— At the Taoiseach's request, I met with Revd. Roy Magee, Presbyterian Minister at Dundonald, (at the La Mon Hotel) following his appearance on T.V. suggesting that this was a critical time for Northern...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Magee Bilaterals, Date: 29 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Mansergh and Magee were present for this meeting.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Magee Bilaterals, Date: 29 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Maze Talks Initiative

  People: Roy Magee
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Magee Bilaterals, Date: 29 Sep 1993, 12:00
  List of Principles for Peace

  People: Roy Magee
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Magee Bilaterals, Date: 29 Sep 1993, 12:00
  He said he felt good progress was being made, until the joint Hume-Adams statement on Saturday.

  People: Roy Magee
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Magee Bilaterals, Date: 29 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Irish Government's Commitment to Peace

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Magee Bilaterals, Date: 29 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Irish Government Not Seeking Joint Authority or Guarantee of a United Ireland

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Magee Bilaterals, Date: 29 Sep 1993, 12:00
  At most, there could be agreement on broad principles, similar to the ones he was working on with the UDA.

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Magee Bilaterals, Date: 29 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Consent Principle and Unionist Participation

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Magee Bilaterals, Date: 29 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Recognition of Unionist Consensus

  People: Roy Magee
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Magee Bilaterals, Date: 29 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Martin Mansergh 29 September, 1993.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  SECRET Report of a meeting of the Nally-Butler Group Cabinet Office, London, 6 October, 1993.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  1. Butler said he wanted a full discussion of the issue on this occasion. The result of Hume's actions had now put everyone on a much tighter schedule. Once Hume briefed the Irish Government "the flies would be buzzing around us". Once we briefed the...

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  [Editors' Note: Butler, Chilcot, Thomas, Nally and Ó hUiginn were all present for this meeting.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Law Society Debate

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Sean O hUiginn 7 October, 1993. Enc.: Revised draft

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Coordinate Presentation of Joint Declaration

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Possibility of IRA Split

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  6. Nally spoke of the difficulties caused by Hume's activities. His decision presumably reflected a fear that things would develop without him during his absence in the States. He assured the British side that the Irish Government understood their...

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Butler wished to devote the current meeting to a discussion about remaining British anxieties. Very soon British ministers would have to decide whether the project was "a goer or not". They hoped we would not only be able to keep Hume in line but to...

  People: Robin Butler John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Brief Molyneaux on the Joint Declaration on a Privy Council Basis

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  7. A discussion followed on the wisdom of floating the proposal by Molyneaux on a Privy-Council basis. The British said they had always found him utterly reliable in relation to the Privy-Councillors oath, which covered both the fact and the content of...

  People: John Chilcot Robin Butler Dermot Nally Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Both Sides to Consider the New Text and Consult via Thomas-Ó'hUiginn

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  18. While the drafting was not precisely settled in all instances, the feeling on both sides of the meeting was that the main point of political difficulty had been addressed. It was agreed that both sides would consider the new text and consult via...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  21. A discussion followed on how to deal with the Hume dimension. The British again repeated the enormous difficulties which would be caused for them if the proposed Declaration were seen to emanate from that quarter or even from some generalised...

  People: Quentin Thomas Robin Butler John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Taoiseach to Formally Convey Text to Prime Minster

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  [Editors' Note: No objection was raised to this.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Iron Out Problems at European Council and Hold Anglo-Irish Summit in November

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  20. Butler envisaged that such a process would take about one month and envisaged that, if successful, a Summit for this purpose would be likely to take place in November. It was agreed the European Council at the end of October would give cover for...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  [Editors' Note: No objection was made to this proposal.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 07 Oct 1993, 12:00
  Spoke to Taoiseach on 7/10/93

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 27 Oct 1993, 20:00
  Speech by Dick Spring in the Dáil Debate on Northern Ireland (27 October 1993)

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 29 Oct 1993, 12:00
  Joint Statement by the Taoiseach and the Prime Minister (29 October 1993)

  People: John Major Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Anglo-Irish Liaison Group, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Framework Agreement

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 09 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Briefing Points on the Joint Declaration (JD13)

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  SECRET Meeting in the Cabinet Office, London, 10 November 1993

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Present were: British Side Sir Robin Butler Mr. John Chilcot Mr. Quentin Thomas Irish Side Mr. Dermot Nally Mr. Sean O hUiginn

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Quentin Thomas was present at this meeting.]

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  British Delegation to Be Led by Chilcot and Thomas

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  He personally had not had time to study it so that, as far as textual matters went, he would leave the running to Mr. Chilcot and Mr. Thomas.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Confidential Meeting Between The Taoiseach and Prime Minister Major – Government Buildings, Dublin, 4 Dec 1991 Plenary Meeting Following the tete a tete talks involving the full delegations on each side took place for about an hour and a quarter...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  Subject to verification SECRET AND PERSONAL Taoiseach's tete a tete with Prime Minister Major The Taoiseach met the Prime Minister in a private room in Government Buildings, following the arrival of the British delegation at 10.30 a.m. and photocalls...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  [Editors' Note: Stephen Wall attended this meeting.]

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  [Editors' Note: Dermot Nally attended this meeting.]

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  The Prime Minister was accompanied by his Private Secretary, Mr. Stephen Wall. The undersigned was with the Taoiseach.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  Welcome

  People: Charles Haughey
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  [Editors' Note: 'the Taoiseach welcomed the Prime Minister'.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  Maastricht Treaty

  People: Charles Haughey John Major Stephen Wall
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  I do not want anything definite from you on this this morning but simply to put the idea in your mind.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  Broaden the Remit of the Intergovernmental Conference

  People: Charles Haughey
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  Make a Joint Declaration on Northern Ireland

  People: Charles Haughey
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  Agenda for Plenary Meeting

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  [...] on which both men agreed.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  [Signed] Dermot Nally 5th December, 1991.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: Gerry Collins attended this meeting.]

  People: Gerry Collins
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: Bertie Ahern attended this meeting.]

  People: Bertie Ahern
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  [Editors' Note: The Prime Minister and the Taoiseach were the only permanent members of this committee.]

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  [Editors' Note: The Prime Minister and the Taoiseach were the only permanent members of this committee.]

  People: Stephen Wall
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: Dermot Nally attended this meeting.]

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: Joseph Small attended this meeting.]

  People: Joseph Small
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: Noel Dorr attended this meeting.]

  People: Noel Dorr
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: Peter Brooke attended this meeting.]

  People: Peter Brooke
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: Tristan Garel-Jones attended this meeting.]

  People: Tristan Garel-Jones
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: Robin Butler attended this meeting.]

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: Stephen Wall attended this meeting.]

  People: Stephen Wall
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: David Blatherwick attended this meeting.]

  People: David Blatherwick
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  The meeting broke up at this point and the Taoiseach invited the Prime Minister to go to lunch. cc. PSM Mr. Nally (Secretary to the Government) Mr. Brosnan (Department of Justice) A/Sec O hUiginn} A/Sec Barrington} DFA A/Sec Fahy} A/Sec Murphy}

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: The Prime Minister and the Taoiseach were the only permanent members of this committee.]

  People: Bertie Ahern
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: The Prime Minister and the Taoiseach were the only permanent members of this committee.]

  People: David Blatherwick
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: The Prime Minister and the Taoiseach were the only permanent members of this committee.]

  People: Peter Brooke
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: The Prime Minister and the Taoiseach were the only permanent members of this committee.]

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: The Prime Minister and the Taoiseach were the only permanent members of this committee.]

  People: Gerry Collins
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: The Prime Minister and the Taoiseach were the only permanent members of this committee.]

  People: Noel Dorr
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: The Prime Minister and the Taoiseach were the only permanent members of this committee.]

  People: Tristan Garel-Jones
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: The Prime Minister and the Taoiseach were the only permanent members of this committee.]

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: The Prime Minister and the Taoiseach were the only permanent members of this committee.]

  People: Joseph Small
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: The Prime Minister and the Taoiseach were the only permanent members of this committee.]

  People: Stephen Wall
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  The Taoiseach was accompanied at the plenary meeting by the Minister for Foreign Affairs, Minister for Finance and officials (Messrs Nally, Small and Dorr); the Prime Minister by Secretary of State Brook (sic), Mr. Garel Jones and officials (Sir Robin...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Welcome

  People: Charles Haughey
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  [Editors' Note: 'the Taoiseach welcomed the Prime Minster, and the Prime Minster responded suitably'.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Taoiseach: I greatly appreciate that you kept your promise to come to Dublin. I did say to colleagues that I would absolve you in view of your heavy schedule in preparation for the European council. You have our sympathy and understanding in the task...

  People: John Major Bertie Ahern Tristan Garel-Jones Dermot Nally Gerry Collins Charles Haughey
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Hold a General Review of Anglo-Irish Relations on Northern Ireland

  People: Charles Haughey
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Creation of a Garda Anti-Terrorist Squad

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  Major: I know the idea but I am not so sure about the substance. What exactly is it proposed that we should say? What, realistically, would have such an effect as to stop the violence? What guarantees are there that it would stop for more than a...

  People: John Major Charles Haughey
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  Return to Question of Further Bilateral Contacts at the Plenary

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  Taoiseach: Yes indeed.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  Nally and Butler to Consult on a Possible Joint Declaration

  People: Charles Haughey
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  Major: Yes I agree with that on the basis that what we are talking about is a possibility rather than a probability: just the two of them; and no commitments on either side. This is something that must be kept totally under wraps.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Improved Co-operation on Finger Printing

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Taoiseach: Why not?

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Direct Army to Gardai Radio Contact

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Prime Minister: [...] As regards a general review (of Anglo-Irish relations) I would say that there is more than one way to skin a cat. If it is expressed at this stage it will excite unnecessary suspicion on the part of the Unionists and possibly...

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Examine Ideas on Security Co-operation Further

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Hold Regular Anglo-Irish Meetings in the Margin of the European Council

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Taoiseach: I will take the second one first. It is so obvious that we should have thought about it before. Your proposal for regular meetings is perfectly acceptable.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Fix a Date for the First Such Meeting

  People: Charles Haughey
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Prime Minister: We will have to give them a general answer because of the question of the date of the election. Not even I know that!

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Taoiseach: In regard to your first proposal there is only one of the ideas you mentioned which would bother us – that is the question of Army to Garda radio communication.

  People: Charles Haughey
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Taoiseach: [...] I do not mind if you say we should look at it again.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Taoiseach: [...] But the answer may be the same as before. The other proposals however we could certainly look at.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  GATT

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Libya

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  GATT Taoiseach: On GATT we have to be ambivalent. We live by our exports – more even than you. 70 or 80% of our economy is overseas. Therefore a successful GATT agreement is very important to us. But then on the other hand there are our farmers. We...

  People: Charles Haughey
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Violence in Northern Ireland

  People: Charles Haughey
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Northern Ireland Talks Process

  People: Charles Haughey
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Prime Minister: I do not think our commitment to the Anglo-Irish agreement can be in any doubt. Nor can there be any doubt of the patient skill of Peter Brook [sic] in seeking to get talks under way. When he met the Unionists recently they made it...

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Increase in Gardai Covert Surveillance

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Minister for Foreign Affairs: There is a genuine difficulty about the idea of a special anti-terrorism unit. They would be sent down from Dublin to Cavan, Donegal, Monaghan and so on and they would come in on top of the local Gardai who would resent...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Minister for Foreign Affairs: On the idea of covert surveillance we can improve the position. We have close co-operation already. We have sent people to be trained and you have trained our trainers. We can talk about developing this.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Libya As regards Libya we of course go along. But we have had to punish ourselves for this. We have a major outlet for cattle which was very valuable to us in the past especially because it comes at a critical time of year and helps to keep up factory...

  People: John Major Charles Haughey Gerry Collins Stephen Wall
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Prime Minister: The ideas I've put forward might be matters which we can develop. If there are difficulties we can talk further about them.

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  The Taoiseach confirmed his agreement to the proposal for twice yearly meetings.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 11:30
  Northern Ireland Secretary: The only problem with half yearly meetings is that you will be calling Gerry and myself to account! Prime Minister: If things go wrong you can take his place and he can take yours.

  People: Peter Brooke John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 20 Apr 1993, 12:00
  A New Approach to the Northern Ireland Problem?

  People: Noel Dorr
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Paragraph 4 of JD8 as Revised by Thomas and Ó hUiginn

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Note on the Importance of the Joint Declaration to the Taoiseach

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Since the rest of this document records the meeting between Hume and Major, it has been modelled in the British-Hume bilaterals committee. See s20823 for more details.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Four Building Blocks for a Joint Declaration (Paragraph 4)

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Framework Agreement

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Paragraph 4 of JD8 as Revised by Thomas and Ó hUiginn

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 29 Mar 1993, 12:00
  Joint Declaration: Early Draft

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 11 Feb 1992, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Noel Dorr was also involved in the Joint Declaration initiative.]

  People: Noel Dorr
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 10 Mar 1993, 12:00
  Note on Possible Institutional Arrangements between North and South

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 22 Apr 1993, 12:00
  Annex A

  People: Noel Dorr
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 22 Apr 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Since this is added to the paper as an Annex, we have modelled it as an amendment.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 11 Feb 1992, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Frank Murray was also involved in the Joint Declaration initiative.]

  People: Frank Murray
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:45
  Communiqué

  People: John Major Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:45
  Pen Amendments to the Draft Communiqué

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:45
  [Editors' Note: It is clear from the text of the final communiqué that these amendments were adopted.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:45
  Further Typed Amendments to the Communiqué

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:45
  [Editors' Note: The final version of the communiqué was further amended.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 16 Jun 1993, 18:45
  [Editors' Note: The communiqué was issued.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Amendments Made within the Irish Government Delegation to Paragraph 4 of JD8 as Revised by Thomas and Ó hUiginn

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 14 Jul 1993, 12:00
  SECRET & PERSONAL Meeting with Cabinet Secretary Butler Taoiseach, I attach a note of our meeting on 14th July.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 09:00
  [Editors' Note: Since Ó hUiginn does not specify which parts of the conversation happened during this brief meeting on the morning of the 23 September 1993 as opposed to on the evening of 22 September 1993, we have modelled the events in the previous...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This draft of the Joint Declaration is taken from the Dermot Nally papers. It has been provisionally dated to the 24th September by hand, but it clearly follows the meeting with Thomas. It appears to have first taken on the amendments...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 24 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This draft of the Joint Declaration is taken from the Dermot Nally papers. It has been provisionally dated to the 24th September by hand, but it clearly follows the meeting with Thomas. It appears to have first taken on the amendments...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 09:00
  1. I had extensive discussions with John Hume on the evening of the 22nd September and, briefing on the morning of the 23rd September, about a proposal he had to issue a statement on the Hume/Adams talks.

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 09:00
  1. I had extensive discussions with John Hume on the evening of the 22nd September and, briefing on the morning of the 23rd September, about a proposal he had to issue a statement on the Hume/Adams talks.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 09:00
  1. I had extensive discussions with John Hume on the evening of the 22nd September and, briefing on the morning of the 23rd September, about a proposal he had to issue a statement on the Hume/Adams talks.

  People: John Hume Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Hume Bilaterals, Date: 23 Sep 1993, 09:00
  [Editors' Note: The meeting adjourned.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 30 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Note on the Joint Declaration Initiative (30 September 1993)

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 01 Oct 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This point was tacitly accepted by Ó hUiginn.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 01 Oct 1993, 12:00
  Reply from John Major to Albert Reynolds (24 September 1993)

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 04 Oct 1993, 12:00
  Tone Down European Union References

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 04 Oct 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: We do not currently have a record of the internal Irish deliberations which led to JD10 being created. We have therefore used the new draft that the delegations were working from during the Butler-Nally meeting on 6 October 1993 to make...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 04 Oct 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: We do not currently have a record of the internal Irish deliberations which led to JD10 being created. We have therefore used the new draft that the delegations were working from during the Butler-Nally meeting on 6 October 1993 to make...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 04 Oct 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: We do not currently have a record of the internal Irish deliberations which led to JD10 being created. We have therefore used the new draft that the delegations were working from during the Butler-Nally meeting on 6 October 1993 to make...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 04 Oct 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: We do not currently have a record of the internal Irish deliberations which led to JD10 being created. We have therefore used the new draft that the delegations were working from during the Butler-Nally meeting on 6 October 1993 to make...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 04 Oct 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: We do not currently have a record of the internal Irish deliberations which led to JD10 being created. We have therefore used the new draft that the delegations were working from during the Butler-Nally meeting on 6 October 1993 to make...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 04 Oct 1993, 12:00
  Translation

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 04 Oct 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Although it is clear that this change was made, since it is reported in both the British and Irish copies of JD10, it is not clear why, since it makes no material difference to the text.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Joint Declaration: JD11

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  8. Mr. Nally explained briefly the changes which had been made. The reference to the EC in paragraph 3 had been softened to meet the point they had made. The text of paragraph 3 had been amended to include a reference to cooperation being "on the basis...

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Refinement of Irish Constitution Reference

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Constitutional Guarantee as Qualifying Statement to No Strategic Interest

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Reference to Articles 2 & 3

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  10. [...] He welcomed the proposed amendment relating to the Irish Constitution, and indicated they would leave it to the Irish side to draft language which covered the point of the legitimacy of the institutions of the State and at the same time...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  11. [...] It was clearly understood that this guarantee stood. It was clearly understood that the Anglo-Irish Agreement was not amended in any way by the Declaration, which had lesser formal status. There would be no inhibition on the British...

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Reference 'Guarantees' in Paragraph 3

  People: John Chilcot Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  12. [...] After further discussion

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Refinement of Wording

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  12. [...] After further discussion it was agreed to insert the phrase "and the guarantees which each Government has given" at the end of the relevant sentence in paragraph 3. This was of course ad referendum on both sides.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  12. [...] After further discussion it was agreed to insert the phrase "and the guarantees which each Government has given" at the end of the relevant sentence in paragraph 3. This was of course ad referendum on both sides.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Remove 'political'

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Qualify 'interest'

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Leave the Brooke Text as Originally Pronounced

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  13. [...] After some discussion it was felt that the most likely way of reaching agreement would be to leave the original (Brooke) text as it had been pronounced, omitting both the word "political" and the proposed addition.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  15. In relation to the reference to Articles 2 and 3, Butler explained the tremendous symbolism which this issue had for Unionists and the great value of having some indication in the text that the Irish Government would be prepared to amend them in...

  People: Robin Butler Dermot Nally Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Oblique Reference to Articles 2 & 3

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  16. On Chilcot's suggestion it was agreed finally to refer back, in square brackets, the following addition to the end of paragraph 5: [which would be reflected in any future agreed (political and) constitutional arrangements emerging from a new and...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  16. On Chilcot's suggestion it was agreed finally to refer back, in square brackets, the following addition to the end of paragraph 5: [which would be reflected in any future agreed (political and) constitutional arrangements emerging from a new and...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  17. There was a brief discussion on the reference to the Convention being open to all democratic parties. Did this mean fringe parties?

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Remove 'all'

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  17. There was a brief discussion on the reference to the Convention being open to all democratic parties. Did this mean fringe parties? It was agreed that the word "all" might usefully be dropped from paragraph 8 for that reason.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 04 Dec 1991, 10:30
  Broaden the Remit of the Intergovernmental Conference

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  11. O hUiginn argued strongly that an explicit reference to the British guarantee about the UK status of the Northern Ireland would simply not be saleable in this context.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Amendment of Self-Determination Sentence to Include Concurrent Consent

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  14. There was some further discussion of the text of the new paragraph 4. This resulted in some amendments (see revised text attached).

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Remove 'freely and collectively'

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  14. There was some further discussion of the text of the new paragraph 4. This resulted in some amendments (see revised text attached).

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Replace 'encourage' with 'enable'

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  14. There was some further discussion of the text of the new paragraph 4. This resulted in some amendments (see revised text attached).

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 04 Oct 1993, 12:00
  I said this would be a difficult point for us too.

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 05 Oct 1993, 12:00
  Irish Government Line after Meeting John Hume

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:14
  [Editors' Note: It seems that this document was taken to the Butler-Nally meeting and annotated/amended there, although it is unclear whether or not the exact text was shared with the British delegation.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Irish Government Line after Meeting John Hume

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Annotations with Robin Butler's Advice

  People: Robin Butler Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  [Editors' Note: These annotations were taken back and shared with the rest of the Irish delegation.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  [Editors' Note: These annotations were taken back and shared with the rest of the Irish delegation.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 07 Oct 1993, 12:00
  Irish Government Line after Meeting John Hume

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 07 Oct 1993, 12:00
  Annotations with Robin Butler's Advice

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 07 Oct 1993, 12:00
  Final Draft of Statement

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 07 Oct 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: The removal of the word 'suggested' by hand implies that this was the final version of the statement.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 07 Oct 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: The removal of the word 'suggested' by hand implies that this was the final version of the statement.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 07 Oct 1993, 12:00
  Joint Declaration

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 07 Oct 1993, 12:00
  Joint Declaration: JD11

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 07 Oct 1993, 12:00
  Amendments Agreed ad Referendum and Made by the Taoiseach

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 07 Oct 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: It is clear from the text of JD12 that the Taoiseach agreed to most of these amendments, but not all of them, chiefly the removal of 'freely and collectively', which was reinstated here. The wording for the various sections in square...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 07 Oct 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: It is clear from the text of JD12 that the Taoiseach agreed to most of these amendments, but not all of them, chiefly the removal of 'freely and collectively', which was reinstated here. The wording for the various sections in square...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Eames Bilaterals, Date: 02 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Eames' Additions

  People: Archbishop Robin Eames
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Eames Bilaterals, Date: 02 Nov 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: The earliest copy of the Joint Declaration incorporating Eames' additions that we have found is in Dermot Nally's papers, dated 2 November 1993. We have therefore modelled the amendment being made and the document being referred back to...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Eames Bilaterals, Date: 02 Nov 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: The earliest copy of the Joint Declaration incorporating Eames' additions that we have found is in Dermot Nally's papers, dated 2 November 1993. We have therefore modelled the amendment being made and the document being referred back to...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 02 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Joint Declaration: Eames' Additions

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 09 Nov 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This is the version of the Joint Declaration which was sent to Quentin Thomas on 9 November 1993 as JD13. This draft incorporates the amendments proposed by Eames on 2 November 1993, with some changes and additions presumably made by...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Joint Declaration: JD13

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  2. Mr Nally suggested the meeting might concentrate on the most recent additions. The initial text was not much changed, but the latest additions balanced the original elements.

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Necessity of Action before the Anglo-Irish Summit

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Commitment to the Joint Declaration as a Proposal

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  6. Nally added that the Taoiseach had a strong sense from his wide range of contacts in Northern Ireland, including from normal political sources on both sides of the divide, that there had never been such a feeling for peace as now. His contacts in...

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  7. Nally added that it would be a mistake to view the IRA as being on its knees. It was an abhorrent organisation, but it could not be said that its resources had been exhausted. He stressed that time was not on our side. He took issue with Mayhew's...

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Distancing the Declaration from Hume/Adams But Not Hume

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  9. Butler, picking up the Hume-Adams reference, said the British side could not get to the point where this initiative was "seriously on".

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  9. [...] British Ministers had had several very agonised discussions. They saw the desire for peace as a tremendous opportunity but had concluded that the effects of the "Hume-Adams Initiative" on unionist opinion was very negative.

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  9. [...] They had concluded that a joint statement which contained elements of "green language", even if acceptable in substance, was not a route they could take. The unionists would not wear it and the men of violence would react. Their recent...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  10. Butler said the Taoiseach had been immensely helpful about the joint statement in Brussels. However the experience they had subsequently of the public statements of the unionists, and the private contacts which they had with them, had not dispelled...

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Consider Alternative Options

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  British to Confirm Their Refusal Unchanged by Brussels Summit

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  12. [...] Butler confirmed this.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  13. O hUiginn said that the ideas involved in the Hume-Adams initiative were simply too big to go away. The climate of discussion had been changed. The issue had to be resolved into success or failure.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Fallout from a Failure to Agree a Text

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  14. Butler said their position was not based on the assumption that the IRA were war weary. They had much independent evidence that the Provisional movement was thinking seriously about peace. They knew there was an upsurge for peace in the community....

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  15. [...] Given basic nationalist positions, the success of the Talks would require some move in any case very similar to that contemplated in the Declaration. If that was so, it made sense to cast that in a form which secured a cessation from the...

  People: Dermot Nally Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  16. Chilcot objected that the particular need and emphasis of the Declaration might mean peace on one side rather than the other. He recalled that there was violence on both sides.

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  British Delegation to Confirm Whether or Not They Had Briefed Molyneaux

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  16. [...] (Butler was evasive on this, possibly because of the confidentiality of any Privy-Council briefing).

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  17. Nally urged the meeting again to focus on the problem of the Summit. Texts would probably be published and people would be left with the impression that a significant opportunity for peace had been missed.

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  18. Butler said he did not want to "look over the cliff of the Summit".

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  22. [...] The Irish side stressed the danger of a wide gap in the views of the two Governments, the dangers that the paramilitaries could be beneficiaries of that, and the need to consider the presentation at the Summit.

  People: Dermot Nally Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Irish Government to Submit a Framework Paper

  People: Quentin Thomas Robin Butler John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  28. As Butler had to host a reception (ironically, I think, for new recruits to GCHQ in Cheltenham) the meeting draw to a close. Nally urged a rethink of British position, in the light of the risks of serious divergence between the two Governments in...

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  18. [...] The present position of Ministers was that the joint Declaration was so shocking to Unionists that it would not do the trick. They would report the Irish views to Ministers, who were continuing to think in an agonised way what the best way...

  People: John Chilcot Robin Butler Dermot Nally Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  21. O hUiginn reverted to Nally's point on the imminence of the Summit. The Taoiseach had undergone considerable risk to protect the Prime Minister from any political risks while he was travelling towards this goal. If he was not in fact travelling...

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  22. There was some further discussion on the text. Nally explained the various changes which had been made. The British side made clear that they would need United Kingdom guarantees enshrined in formal terms in paragraph 4 of the draft and that the...

  People: Robin Butler John Chilcot Seán Ó hUiginn Quentin Thomas Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  25. [...] The Irish side said the Government were supportive of all forms of dialogue. There was no wish to be negative in any way about the conversations Ancram was having with political leaders. They had to realise however that these talks had no...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  26. Chilcot said that, to address the hypothesis that the Declaration was not used for the Summit, it was worth recalling that when the Prime Minister saw Hume, the latter had not been fixated on any particular date in the calendar. That was an...

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  British Government to Get in Touch If Necessary

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  28. [...] Butler acknowledged that the ball was at their feet in terms of the next contact.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Sean Sean O hUiginn 10 November, 1993

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  3. [...] He felt, in general, the new additions should not cause problems for the Republican people. Paragraph 4 remained the key.

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 25 Nov 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Robin Butler took this letter to his meeting with the Taoiseach on 26 November 1993.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Meeting in the Taoiseach's Office 26 November, 1993

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Present: Irish Side The Taoiseach Dr. Martin Mansergh Mr. Sean O hUiginn British Side Sir Robin Butler Mr. David Blatherwick

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Present: Irish Side The Taoiseach Dr. Martin Mansergh Mr. Sean O hUiginn British Side Sir Robin Butler Mr. David Blatherwick

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Present: Irish Side The Taoiseach Dr. Martin Mansergh Mr. Sean O hUiginn British Side Sir Robin Butler Mr. David Blatherwick

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Present: Irish Side The Taoiseach Dr. Martin Mansergh Mr. Sean O hUiginn British Side Sir Robin Butler Mr. David Blatherwick

  People: David Blatherwick
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Present: Irish Side The Taoiseach Dr. Martin Mansergh Mr. Sean O hUiginn British Side Sir Robin Butler Mr. David Blatherwick

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Opening Remarks

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  1. [...] Sir Robin Butler said it would be better than that.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Letter from John Major to Albert Reynolds (25 November 1993)

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Robin Butler to Set Out British Government Position

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Robin Butler did so.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  3. Sir Robin Butler said the British Prime Minister had worked hard, in what had been a tough week for him and his colleagues. He had spent more time on this issue than on the budget. The British greatly appreciated the helpful brokerage role the...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Joint Declaration: Alternative British Draft

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  3. The most positive development was that the Secretary of State had had lunch with Molyneaux the previous day and had showed him the draft which they were now about to hand over. The situation in Northern Ireland was so fluid it was difficult to make...

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Revelation of British Government Contacts with PIRA

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Molyneaux's Veto on British Government Policy

  People: Robin Butler Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  5. [...] The Taoiseach referred to possible activities of the British intelligence services. These created serious doubts that the British were bona fides. Butler said he could look the Taoiseach in the eye and say that if the security services were up...

  People: Robin Butler Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  6. The Taoiseach said that some of the games being played could put people's lives at risk. If that was the length they were prepared to go to to protect James Molyneaux's position, he for one was not interested. His interest was in peace, not a...

  People: Robin Butler Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  British Misreading of Situation in Northern Ireland

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  7. [...] Butler said the British side felt they were getting closer to getting Molyneaux back on board.

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Taoiseach's Dissatisfaction with Brussels Summit

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Leak of Irish Draft Framework Document

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  10. Dr. Mansergh set out in detail the background to the work which had been done on the earlier text. It had taken some account of the psychological realities of the Provisional movement and had been designed to bring them across the bridge into the...

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  10. [...] Not only did the present British text not do that. It was extraordinarily heavy-footed in the opposite direction. If the present text was presented to the Provos, they would be inclined, to coin a phrase, to "kick it over the rooftops".

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  11. The Taoiseach recalled that an enormous amount of work had been put into the previous document. It was an Irish Government document. They were ready to go through it line by line to show that it did not compromise the basis principles of either...

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  8. At this point the Taoiseach asked to see the paper. He said that if it was "too much off side", or too unbalanced in one direction or another, it would not work. A balanced approach was necessary. The Irish side read through the paper. Dr. Mansergh...

  People: Martin Mansergh Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  11. [...] In spite of all this effort, at the eleventh hour before the Summit, they got an alternative document. Why was this so?

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  12. Butler explained that the association with Adams had created great difficulties. The text could not be separated from the Hume-Adams process. The Taoiseach protested strongly that it was an Irish Government document which had been drafted in his...

  People: Robin Butler David Blatherwick Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  13. [...] He wondered if the British side truly understood the mood in Northern Ireland. The result of the European elections, would show them what that mood was.

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  14. Blatherwick said they recognised the opportunity and wanted to do what the Taoiseach wanted to do. They wanted to seize the opportunity but they could not take such a risk that they fell off at the other end. It was possible that the divide was not...

  People: Albert Reynolds Robin Butler David Blatherwick
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  16. The Taoiseach said he would present the text to his Cabinet colleagues. The British side knew from his comments what his recommendations would be.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Probability of Continued Violence

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  16. [...] However he would present it to the Government and let them decide.

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  17. Butler protested that they wanted to remain close to the position of the Irish Government, to end violence, and to secure progress. It was not only a matter of words on paper. They understood the Provisionals were not war-weary, but they realised...

  People: Robin Butler Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  18. [...] The Irish side would not put to the British something they knew to be unacceptable. It took a very long time to get the Provisionals to that stage. They were very slow to give their agreement. It was a question of finesse and an accurate balance.

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  18. [...] The document which was now produced was clearly designed to bring Molyneaux on board, but not the Provos.

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  19. The Taoiseach recalled how he had progressively led the Provos away from their emphasis on self-determination for the whole island and from a time limit. Anyone who said the present document was a Provo document had no understanding of the real...

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Patrick Mayhew's Position on the Peace Process

  People: Robin Butler David Blatherwick Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  British Mistakes

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  20. [...] They were being offered an opportunity to safeguard the essence of the Unionist position, and their own position as stated in international agreements, and still get peace. Dr. Mansergh said not only was there no regard to the basic...

  People: Martin Mansergh Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  21. The Taoiseach felt that all that could be said about the draft had been said. He said he would go formally to the Government on Tuesday with the British document. However it was better to be honest. He would have preferred to know six months...

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  22. Butler asked if he was saying that the present text was not a basis for discussions. The Taoiseach said he would not put it like that. They had a good text. It had been under discussion for six months. That text was a basis for success, but the...

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Negotiate on JD14

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  23. Butler said yes.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  23. [...] However he wanted to make clear that they had not "drawn the Taoiseach along" deliberately. The leaked document, the most recent Hume-Adams meeting, all these factors had complicated things.

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Need for an Explicit Recognition of New Constitutional Position

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Unionist Fears

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  24. [...] The Taoiseach challenged him to say where the sell-out was in the original document. It was carefully and deliberately balanced between the requirements of the two communities.

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  24. [...] Butler recalled they had worked hard to persuade the Unionists that there was no sell-out in the Anglo-Irish Agreement, but that had failed.

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  24. [...] The Taoiseach recalled the lengths he had gone to to ensure balance in the text, including consultations with Archbishop Eames. Surely his approval could be taken as significant in terms of the Unionist community as a whole? Butler suggested...

  People: Robin Butler Albert Reynolds Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  25. After some further discussion covering the same points, it was clear that no further progress could be made on the text. The Taoiseach agreed to have it looked at, and to present it to his Cabinet colleagues, while making clear his own clear views...

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Cancel the Anglo-Irish Summit

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  26. [...] Butler said even if there was no document, it was not in the interest of the two Governments to allow the Provisionals to drive them apart. The Taoiseach thought that might well be the effect of the British position. That was the reality....

  People: Robin Butler Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  26. [...] O hUiginn said that if the British draft were to be the outcome of the Summit, it would be seen, both North and South, as on balance a Unionist document. If it did not produce peace, what purpose did it serve?

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  27. The Taoiseach intervened to recall discussions he had with Archbishop Eames, and the point he had made on the Frost programme, about the difficulties of Articles 2 and 3. He was doing his utmost to help the British to solve the Northern problem. It...

  People: Albert Reynolds Robin Butler Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  28. [...] Questions would be also asked about the Talks process. Even there there was likely to be a difference between the Governments, since Molyneaux had embraced the Ancram talks as an alternative to the peace process. 29. Dr. Mansergh pointed out...

  People: Martin Mansergh Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  29. [...] Butler enquired whether the Taoiseach was saying that unless they made the Joint Declaration on the terms the Irish side had proposed, there was no other basis for the Summit.

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  29. [...] The Taoiseach again recalled the hard work which had gone into the Irish draft. They had taken suggestions on board from all sides and discussed it with all kinds. He had accepted that he himself was not the best judge of the Unionist...

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  29. [...] The British should not at this stage be asking us to get into a matter on a new basis, and the fact they were doing so seemed to carry its own message.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  30. There was some further discussion in which the Taoiseach and the Irish side emphasised the importance of the prize on hand, the need for courage, and the dangers of failure.

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  30. [...] The British side asked that the text should be looked at. The Taoiseach promised to submit it to his Cabinet colleagues, while making clear that his own views on it would be unfavourable.

  People: Robin Butler Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  British to Report to John Major

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  30. [...] The British side agreed they would report the position to the Prime Minister.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  31. At the conclusion the Taoiseach again alluded to the possibility that British security services were playing a role which was both dangerous to people's lives and very counter-productive in terms of trust.

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Sean O hUiginn 29 November, 1993

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 26 Nov 1993, 12:00
  Joint Declaration: Alternative British Draft

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 11:20
  The Prime Minister said there had been anger at the suggestion the meeting would not go ahead, and at suggestions the two Governments had floated apart.

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 11:20
  The Taoiseach, referring to the leaked Irish paper, said it had been an attempt by someone to nail down the peace initiative.

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 11:20
  British Government Frustration at American Intervention

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 11:20
  Identify Remaining Points of Difference in Brussels Next Week

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 11:20
  Then, next week in Brussels, they would identify remaining points of difference.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 11:30
  British Delegation SOS Hurd SOS Mayhew Ambassador D. Blatherwick Sir Robin Butler Mr. J. Chilcott [sic] Mr. A T O'Donnell Mr. R J Sawers Mr. J. Stephens Mr. Q. Thomas Mr. G. Archer

  People: A T O'Donnell
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 11:30
  British Delegation SOS Hurd SOS Mayhew Ambassador D. Blatherwick Sir Robin Butler Mr. J. Chilcott [sic] Mr. A T O'Donnell Mr. R J Sawers Mr. J. Stephens Mr. Q. Thomas Mr. G. Archer

  People: (Robert) John Sawers
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 11:30
  British Delegation SOS Hurd SOS Mayhew Ambassador D. Blatherwick Sir Robin Butler Mr. J. Chilcott [sic] Mr. A T O'Donnell Mr. R J Sawers Mr. J. Stephens Mr. Q. Thomas Mr. G. Archer

  People: Graham Archer
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 11:30
  Irish Delegation Tánaiste Minister for Justice Mr. N. Dorr Ambassador J. Small Mr. P. Teahon Mr. S. Ó hÚiginn Mr. T. Barrington Mr. N. Fahey Nr. C. Ó hÚiginn Mr. F. Finlay Mr. D. Donoghue

  People: Paddy Teahon
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 11:30
  Irish Delegation Tánaiste Minister for Justice Mr. N. Dorr Ambassador J. Small Mr. P. Teahon Mr. S. Ó hÚiginn Mr. T. Barrington Mr. N. Fahey Nr. C. Ó hÚiginn Mr. F. Finlay Mr. D. Donoghue

  People: Tom Barrington
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 11:30
  Irish Delegation Tánaiste Minister for Justice Mr. N. Dorr Ambassador J. Small Mr. P. Teahon Mr. S. Ó hÚiginn Mr. T. Barrington Mr. N. Fahey Nr. C. Ó hÚiginn Mr. F. Finlay Mr. D. Donoghue

  People: Noel Fahey
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 11:30
  Irish Delegation Tánaiste Minister for Justice Mr. N. Dorr Ambassador J. Small Mr. P. Teahon Mr. S. Ó hÚiginn Mr. T. Barrington Mr. N. Fahey Nr. C. Ó hÚiginn Mr. F. Finlay Mr. D. Donoghue

  People: C Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 11:30
  Irish Delegation Tánaiste Minister for Justice Mr. N. Dorr Ambassador J. Small Mr. P. Teahon Mr. S. Ó hÚiginn Mr. T. Barrington Mr. N. Fahey Nr. C. Ó hÚiginn Mr. F. Finlay Mr. D. Donoghue

  People: Fergus Finlay
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 11:30
  Irish Delegation Tánaiste Minister for Justice Mr. N. Dorr Ambassador J. Small Mr. P. Teahon Mr. S. Ó hÚiginn Mr. T. Barrington Mr. N. Fahey Nr. C. Ó hÚiginn Mr. F. Finlay Mr. D. Donoghue

  People: David Donoghue
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 11:30
  Mr Dalton offered the Irish side's assessment. Those favouring peace in PIRA remained in a good position, but we needed to understand that within PIRA there was an alternative structure grouped around those older PIRA members. The key question was how...

  People: John Chilcot Tim Dalton
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Taoiseach was accompanied by the Tanaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and by the Minister for Justice. Also present were: Mr F. Murray, Mr P. Teahon, Mr D. Nally, Dr M. Mansergh; Mr N. Dorr, Ambassador J. Small, Mr S. O hUiginn, Mr F. Finlay,...

  People: Máire Geoghegan-Quinn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Taoiseach was accompanied by the Tanaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and by the Minister for Justice. Also present were: Mr F. Murray, Mr P. Teahon, Mr D. Nally, Dr M. Mansergh; Mr N. Dorr, Ambassador J. Small, Mr S. O hUiginn, Mr F. Finlay,...

  People: Frank Murray
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Taoiseach was accompanied by the Tanaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and by the Minister for Justice. Also present were: Mr F. Murray, Mr P. Teahon, Mr D. Nally, Dr M. Mansergh; Mr N. Dorr, Ambassador J. Small, Mr S. O hUiginn, Mr F. Finlay,...

  People: Paddy Teahon
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Taoiseach was accompanied by the Tanaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and by the Minister for Justice. Also present were: Mr F. Murray, Mr P. Teahon, Mr D. Nally, Dr M. Mansergh; Mr N. Dorr, Ambassador J. Small, Mr S. O hUiginn, Mr F. Finlay,...

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Taoiseach was accompanied by the Tanaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and by the Minister for Justice. Also present were: Mr F. Murray, Mr P. Teahon, Mr D. Nally, Dr M. Mansergh; Mr N. Dorr, Ambassador J. Small, Mr S. O hUiginn, Mr F. Finlay,...

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Taoiseach was accompanied by the Tanaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and by the Minister for Justice. Also present were: Mr F. Murray, Mr P. Teahon, Mr D. Nally, Dr M. Mansergh; Mr N. Dorr, Ambassador J. Small, Mr S. O hUiginn, Mr F. Finlay,...

  People: Noel Dorr
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  SECRET WORKING MEETING BETWEEN TAOISEACH AND PM MAJOR: DUBLIN CASTLE, 3 DECEMBER 1993 PLENARY SESSION A plenary session took place from 3 pm until 4. 30 pm and, after a break to permit internal consultations, resumed from approx. 5 pm until approx....

  People: Dick Spring
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Taoiseach was accompanied by the Tanaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and by the Minister for Justice. Also present were: Mr F. Murray, Mr P. Teahon, Mr D. Nally, Dr M. Mansergh; Mr N. Dorr, Ambassador J. Small, Mr S. O hUiginn, Mr F. Finlay,...

  People: Joseph Small
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Taoiseach was accompanied by the Tanaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and by the Minister for Justice. Also present were: Mr F. Murray, Mr P. Teahon, Mr D. Nally, Dr M. Mansergh; Mr N. Dorr, Ambassador J. Small, Mr S. O hUiginn, Mr F. Finlay,...

  People: Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Taoiseach was accompanied by the Tanaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and by the Minister for Justice. Also present were: Mr F. Murray, Mr P. Teahon, Mr D. Nally, Dr M. Mansergh; Mr N. Dorr, Ambassador J. Small, Mr S. O hUiginn, Mr F. Finlay,...

  People: Fergus Finlay
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Taoiseach was accompanied by the Tanaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and by the Minister for Justice. Also present were: Mr F. Murray, Mr P. Teahon, Mr D. Nally, Dr M. Mansergh; Mr N. Dorr, Ambassador J. Small, Mr S. O hUiginn, Mr F. Finlay,...

  People: David Donoghue
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Taoiseach was accompanied by the Tanaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and by the Minister for Justice. Also present were: Mr F. Murray, Mr P. Teahon, Mr D. Nally, Dr M. Mansergh; Mr N. Dorr, Ambassador J. Small, Mr S. O hUiginn, Mr F. Finlay,...

  People: Tim Dalton
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Taoiseach was accompanied by the Tanaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and by the Minister for Justice. Also present were: Mr F. Murray, Mr P. Teahon, Mr D. Nally, Dr M. Mansergh; Mr N. Dorr, Ambassador J. Small, Mr S. O hUiginn, Mr F. Finlay,...

  People: C Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Taoiseach was accompanied by the Tanaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and by the Minister for Justice. Also present were: Mr F. Murray, Mr P. Teahon, Mr D. Nally, Dr M. Mansergh; Mr N. Dorr, Ambassador J. Small, Mr S. O hUiginn, Mr F. Finlay,...

  People: Pat Hennessy
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Prime Minister was accompanied by the Foreign Secretary and by the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. Also present were: Sir R. Butler, Mr R. Lyne; Mr J. Chilcot, Mr Q. Thomas, Mr J. Stephens; Ambassador D. Blatherwick, Mr G. Archer and Mr R. Sawers.

  People: Douglas Hurd
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Prime Minister was accompanied by the Foreign Secretary and by the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. Also present were: Sir R. Butler, Mr R. Lyne; Mr J. Chilcot, Mr Q. Thomas, Mr J. Stephens; Ambassador D. Blatherwick, Mr G. Archer and Mr R. Sawers.

  People: Patrick Mayhew
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Prime Minister was accompanied by the Foreign Secretary and by the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. Also present were: Sir R. Butler, Mr R. Lyne; Mr J. Chilcot, Mr Q. Thomas, Mr J. Stephens; Ambassador D. Blatherwick, Mr G. Archer and Mr R. Sawers.

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Prime Minister was accompanied by the Foreign Secretary and by the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. Also present were: Sir R. Butler, Mr R. Lyne; Mr J. Chilcot, Mr Q. Thomas, Mr J. Stephens; Ambassador D. Blatherwick, Mr G. Archer and Mr R. Sawers.

  People: Roderic Lyne
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Prime Minister was accompanied by the Foreign Secretary and by the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. Also present were: Sir R. Butler, Mr R. Lyne; Mr J. Chilcot, Mr Q. Thomas, Mr J. Stephens; Ambassador D. Blatherwick, Mr G. Archer and Mr R. Sawers.

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Prime Minister was accompanied by the Foreign Secretary and by the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. Also present were: Sir R. Butler, Mr R. Lyne; Mr J. Chilcot, Mr Q. Thomas, Mr J. Stephens; Ambassador D. Blatherwick, Mr G. Archer and Mr R. Sawers.

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Prime Minister was accompanied by the Foreign Secretary and by the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. Also present were: Sir R. Butler, Mr R. Lyne; Mr J. Chilcot, Mr Q. Thomas, Mr J. Stephens; Ambassador D. Blatherwick, Mr G. Archer and Mr R. Sawers.

  People: Jonathan Stephens
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Prime Minister was accompanied by the Foreign Secretary and by the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. Also present were: Sir R. Butler, Mr R. Lyne; Mr J. Chilcot, Mr Q. Thomas, Mr J. Stephens; Ambassador D. Blatherwick, Mr G. Archer and Mr R. Sawers.

  People: David Blatherwick
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Prime Minister was accompanied by the Foreign Secretary and by the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. Also present were: Sir R. Butler, Mr R. Lyne; Mr J. Chilcot, Mr Q. Thomas, Mr J. Stephens; Ambassador D. Blatherwick, Mr G. Archer and Mr R. Sawers.

  People: Graham Archer
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The Prime Minister was accompanied by the Foreign Secretary and by the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. Also present were: Sir R. Butler, Mr R. Lyne; Mr J. Chilcot, Mr Q. Thomas, Mr J. Stephens; Ambassador D. Blatherwick, Mr G. Archer and Mr R. Sawers.

  People: (Robert) John Sawers
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  Taoiseach Welcome. We have had the benefit of some good meetings before lunch. The Prime Minister and I have agreed to go straight into the document. We have outlined between us the obstacles to be overcome and have agreed to go through the text on a...

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  SECRET WORKING MEETING BETWEEN TAOISEACH AND PM MAJOR: DUBLIN CASTLE, 3 DECEMBER 1993 PLENARY SESSION A plenary session took place from 3 pm until 4. 30 pm and, after a break to permit internal consultations, resumed from approx. 5 pm until approx....

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  We started off with a June document which we rightly felt would deliver peace. If I had been asked ten days ago if I thought that it would deliver peace, I would have said Yes. We carried on for quite some time with the June document, taking on board...

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  This brought us up to about a month ago, when things started to go wrong. Some people took the view that I was trying to blackmail the British Government into doing something it didn't want to do. That was not the case. We were always conscious of the...

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  Take Time to Assess the Possibility of a Cessation

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  We produced a document which, in our view, is very balanced and accommodating. It discards the known demands of the IRA. It ends the IRA demand for a declaration by the British of their intent to withdraw. It ends the insistence on a majority in the...

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  Loyalist violence is reactive. My information is that there is a lot of debate going on on the Loyalist side also. I am assured from three different directions that an opportunity now exists for that to stop also.

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  Agree a Text Today

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  Prime Minister Well, that would be optimistic.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  British Government Amendment to 2(4)

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  Taoiseach The important thing for us to consider is how all the changes proposed upset the overall balance of the text.

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  Irish Government Amendment to 2(4)

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  Taoiseach Since we left out of the document all of the IRA's fundamental aims, there could be certain readjustments which are required.

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  Prime Minister You asked us to wave this document at one or two prominent figures in Northern Ireland and to get some perception from certain people, both clerical and non-clerical. From this one point emerged: nowhere in these documents (sic) have we...

  People: Martin Mansergh John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  British Government Amendment to 5(1)

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  British Government Addition to 5

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  We cannot allow to go unchallenged the possibility, and the strong perception, that there is an opportunity for peace now which is waiting to be grasped. We cannot let the Provisional IRA get away with it. That would be untenable in political terms for...

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  We both walked into the room this morning frustrated with what had happened over the past fortnight. I took the opportunity to discuss my frustrations with you and you raised yours with me. We looked at the problems very carefully next door. Both sides...

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  In your text you are seeking balance. The events of the past fortnight have, in our view, altered the position. You referred to your efforts to meet the genuine fears of the Unionists. In some ways, your document makes quite a lucid attempt to meet...

  People: John Major Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  In that way, we would undermine our opponents. Mansergh demurred at the formulation envisaged. Prime Minister What I want is the principle that I have mentioned. I accept that "seek" might be the wrong word.

  People: Martin Mansergh John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  British Government Amendment to 5(2)

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  I am content with para 6. Two sentences in the middle could come out but, if you are content with them, I need not raise them.

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  Irish Government Amendment to 7(1)

  People: Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  Thomas The Anglo-Irish Agreement does not quite say that. That is an important objection. O hUiginn It is intended to be a fair paraphrase of what is said in the Agreement. Thomas It is an interpretation rather than a paraphrase. Nally The...

  People: Quentin Thomas Dermot Nally Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  Irish Government Amendment to 7(1): Wording Change

  People: Noel Dorr
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  Prime Minister I see what you are getting at. We will have to come back to this later – as, indeed, we will have to come back to all of these points.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  British Government Amendment to 7(1)

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  British Government Addition to 7

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  That would be the natural converse of what you have just inserted. Taoiseach I went through this in considerable detail with Eames and others. This is an area where you can clearly upset the balance. I will say no more. I am putting down a marker. It...

  People: John Major Albert Reynolds Douglas Hurd
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  In para 8, we have no change to propose.

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  British Government Amendment to 9(1)

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  British Government Deletion of 10 and 11 and Addition of New 10

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  (At this point the British proposal was circulated in typed form. The Prime Minister remarked, as a jocular aside, that the Anglo-Irish Agreement had become his bedtime reading, supplanting Trollope; on balance, however, he preferred Trollope).

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  Nally Para 4 of the text is the core issue to be addressed.

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  British Government Amendment to 4(1)

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  That should remove any misunderstanding while retaining what we have traditionally said. Taoiseach We will park it. I want to see the overall effect on that paragraph.

  People: John Major Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  Butler I wonder if the significance of saying "the process of reaching such agreement" is clear to the Irish side. The point is that the British Government would not be joining the ranks of the persuaders. Taoiseach I recognized that the amendment...

  People: Robin Butler John Major Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  British Government Amendment to 4(5)

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  British Government Amendment to 4(6)

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  Mansergh So your sentence about self-determination would replace the existing one in the text? Prime Minister Yes. That is our lot.

  People: Martin Mansergh John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  Adjournment for Half an Hour

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  At this point, the meeting adjourned for half an hour in order to facilitate internal consultations.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  At this point, the meeting adjourned for half an hour in order to facilitate internal consultations.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  The constitutional guarantee has been necessary from the outset.

  People: John Major Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Confirmation That No Side Agreements Are Associated with the Declaration

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  Mansergh This goes into fairly specific mode. Taoiseach The British Government's White Paper of 1973 proposed a "Conference". We could perhaps change the name to " Conference". Thomas I think that the British Government were to be a member of the...

  People: Martin Mansergh John Major Albert Reynolds Seán Ó hUiginn Quentin Thomas Patrick Mayhew Douglas Hurd
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  British Government Amendment to 4(3)

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  British Government Amendment to 4(4)

  People: John Major
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Confirmation That the Irish Government Considers the Declaration Compatible with the Talks Process

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Sinn Féin Not to Enter Talks Immediately

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  Taoiseach to Issue an Assurance That the Declaration Would Be a Basis for a PIRA Ceasefire

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  (He elaborated that if they made the Declaration in the expectation of peace, they would wish to justify this expectation on their side by reference to assurances from the Taoiseach, and not to anything which implied direct or indirect contacts with the IRA).

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  On the points raised by Butler, Nally confirmed there were no side agreements. The text was specifically designed to produce a result related to a certain set of people. It left out various other dimensions which could be covered in other ways.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  3. Nally then dealt formally with each of the four points raised at the last Butler-Nally meeting and conveyed the Taoiseach's formal assurances on each of the points involved. He emphasised there was no doubt in the Taoiseach's mind about rejecting...

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  Taoiseach I have to say that my overall impression is that the balance of this text has been totally and absolutely offended. There is nothing in it on which the fellows can hang their hats. The balance of the document has been overwhelmingly...

  People: Albert Reynolds
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 03 Dec 1993, 14:55
  Prime Minister You should look to see whether there is anything (in what I have proposed) which we have not said between us at some stage. Balance is a two-way operation. I do not want to replace IRA violence at one end with Loyalist violence at the...

  People: Albert Reynolds John Major Douglas Hurd
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  4. O hUiginn said that if there was a cessation it would be difficult to justify a refusal to admit Sinn Fein to political dialogue in respect of their electoral support. As a practical matter, however, we assumed that the Unionists would find it...

  People: John Chilcot Dermot Nally Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Prime Minister-Taoiseach Meetings, Date: 29 Oct 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This statement was circulated.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 29 Oct 1993, 12:00
  Joint Statement by the Taoiseach and the Prime Minister (29 October 1993)

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 29 Oct 1993, 12:00
  Joint Statement by the Taoiseach and the Prime Minister (29 October 1993)

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 29 Oct 1993, 12:00
  Joint Statement by the Taoiseach and the Prime Minister (29 October 1993)

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Informal British-Irish Bilaterals, Date: 29 Oct 1993, 12:00
  Joint Statement by the Taoiseach and the Prime Minister (29 October 1993)

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  RB, DBlatherwick, J. Chilcot, QT. London Cabinet Office 7/12/93

  People: Quentin Thomas
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  RB, DBlatherwick, J. Chilcot, QT. London Cabinet Office 7/12/93

  People: David Blatherwick
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  RB, DBlatherwick, J. Chilcot, QT. London Cabinet Office 7/12/93

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  __________________

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Not Issue Joint Declaration in Brussels

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Downplay the Brussels Meeting to Avoid Speculation

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish Government, Date: 06 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This letter was handed over during a Butler/Nally meeting on 7 December 1993.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Letter from Albert Reynolds to John Major (6 December 1993)

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  British Government Amendment to Irish Government Amendment to 2(4)

  People: John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This text has been struck out.] 'and for the future,' JC. 7/1

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: British Government, Date: 26 Mar 1991, 15:30
  3.30 pm The Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (Mr. Peter Brooke) With permission, Mr. Speaker, I will make a statement about political development in Northern Ireland. I am pleased to be able to inform the House that, following extensive...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  3. Nally then dealt formally with each of the four points raised at the last Butler-Nally meeting and conveyed the Taoiseach's formal assurances on each of the points involved. He emphasised there was no doubt in the Taoiseach's mind about rejecting...

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  3. Nally then dealt formally with each of the four points raised at the last Butler-Nally meeting and conveyed the Taoiseach's formal assurances on each of the points involved. He emphasised there was no doubt in the Taoiseach's mind about rejecting...

  People: Dermot Nally
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 10 Nov 1993, 12:00
  15. Chilcot and Thomas underlined statements made by Irish spokespersons that the Initiative was not in competition with the Talks but rather was complementary. The Irish side agreed that this was so. If a cessation of violence were achieved, it would...

  People: Quentin Thomas Dermot Nally John Chilcot Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  He confirmed the view that the Declaration would be compatible with the Talks process. If peace was established, the Talks process could complement the Declaration.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  On the fourth point he confirmed there were no direct contacts with the IRA on the Irish side either, so there could be no question of imputing direct contact to the British. He felt the Taoiseach would want to be helpful in the way they suggested.

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 06 Oct 1993, 11:15
  [Editors' Note: The Irish delegation agreed to discuss this with the Taoiseach.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This text has been struck out.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  New Insertion of 'Generation' in 2(1)

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This text has not been struck out, and appears in subsequent drafts.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: The text -between hyphens- has been struck out. The text _between underscores_ has been underlined.] 2. [...] It is their aim to foster agreement and reconciliation, leading to a new political framework founded on consent and...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Alternative Reaffirmation of Constitutional Guarantee in 2(3)

  People: Noel Dorr Dermot Nally Martin Mansergh Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Addition to Alternative Reaffirmation of Constitutional Guarantee in 2(3)

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, and text {in curly brackets} is written in pen.] 2. [...] They therefore make a solemn commitment to promote co-operation at all levels on the...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Amendment to 3

  People: John Chilcot Quentin Thomas Robin Butler David Blatherwick
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  British Government Amendment to Amendment to 3

  People: Quentin Thomas Robin Butler David Blatherwick John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text _between underscored_ has been underlined, text -between hyphens- has been struck out, and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] 3. They also consider that the development of Europe will, of itself, require new...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text _between underscored_ has been underlined, text -between hyphens- has been struck out, and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] 3. They also consider that the development of Europe will, of itself, require new...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Irish Government Amendment to British Government Amendment to 4(3)

  People: Martin Mansergh Noel Dorr Dermot Nally Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] 4. [...] The role of the British Government will be to encourage, assist and enable -_the...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Irish Government Amendment to British Government Amendment to 4(4)

  People: Noel Dorr Dermot Nally Martin Mansergh Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  British Government Addition to 4

  People: John Chilcot Quentin Thomas Robin Butler David Blatherwick
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] 4. [...] _-while- Their -fundamental interest- {concern} in -Northern Ireland- is to...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] 4. [...] They accept that such agreement may, as of right, take the form of agreed...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] 4. [...] They accept that such agreement may, as of right, take the form of agreed...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] 4. [...] They reaffirm as a binding obligation that they will, for their part, introduce...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Irish Government Amendment to British Government Addition to 5

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] 5. The Taoiseach, on behalf of the Irish Government, considers that the lessons of Irish...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] 5. The Taoiseach, on behalf of the Irish Government, considers that the lessons of Irish...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Irish Government Amendment to British Government Amendment to 5(2)

  People: Noel Dorr Dermot Nally Martin Mansergh Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] 5. [...] He accepts, on behalf of the Irish Government, that the democratic right of...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] 5. [...] He accepts, on behalf of the Irish Government, that the democratic right of...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, text _/_like this_/_ has been broken underlined and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] 7. [Despite] _While recognizing_ _/_Both...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, text _/_like this_/_ has been broken underlined and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] 7. [Despite] _While recognizing_ _/_Both...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  British Government Amendment to Irish Government Amendment to 7(1)

  People: Quentin Thomas Robin Butler David Blatherwick John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, text _/_like this_/_ has been broken underlined and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] 7. [Despite] _While recognizing_ _/_Both...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, text _/_like this_/_ has been broken underlined and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] 7. [Despite] _While recognizing_ _/_Both...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] 7. [...] _He confirmed that, in the event of an overall -accommodation being agreed-...

  People: Robin Butler
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] 7. [...] _He confirm-ed-{s} that, in the event of an overall -accommodation being...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] {_Q.Th._ replacing a claim of right to N.I. by an aspiration ... so that it fully reflects...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Second British Amendment to Alternative Irish Government Addition to 7

  People: Quentin Thomas David Blatherwick Robin Butler John Chilcot
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Irish Government Amendment to Second British Amendment to Alternative Irish Government Addition to 7

  People: Noel Dorr Dermot Nally Seán Ó hUiginn Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: After the Irish side rejected Quentin Thomas' proposal to commit to replacing the claim of right with an aspiration, we only have the drafts to go on. These show that the Irish side's language was expanded by a brief reference to...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: After the Irish side rejected Quentin Thomas' proposal to commit to replacing the claim of right with an aspiration, we only have the drafts to go on. These show that the Irish side's language was expanded by a brief reference to...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: After the Irish side rejected Quentin Thomas' proposal to commit to replacing the claim of right with an aspiration, we only have the drafts to go on. These show that the Irish side's language was expanded by a brief reference to...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Irish Government Amendment to British Government Amendment to 9(1)

  People: Noel Dorr Dermot Nally Martin Mansergh Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] 9. The British and Irish Governments will seek_, along with the Northern Ireland...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] 9. The British and Irish Governments will seek_, along with the Northern Ireland...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: It seems likely that the meeting broke, at least briefly, at this point to type up and table the interim draft retained in Dermot Nally's papers.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: From this point onwards, the British proposal to strike out paragraphs 10 and 11 and replace them with a new paragraph 10 was divided; the Irish government offered an amendment to the extra paragraph whilst also pressing for the...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Irish Government Amendment to British Government Additional Paragraph

  People: Martin Mansergh Noel Dorr Dermot Nally Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] {-}_Irish Amendment_{-} {7/12/93 agreed} {10.} The British and Irish Governments...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  British Government Amendment to Strike Out Paragraphs 10 and 11

  People: Noel Dorr Dermot Nally Seán Ó hUiginn Martin Mansergh
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Typographical Errors

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: When the text of the interim draft was tabled, it contained a variety of errors: not all of the new text was successfully underlined, and there were some differences between the text agreed and the text typed up. Some of these errors...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_ has been underlined, and text {in curly brackets} has been added in pen.] {-}_Irish Amendment_{-} {7/12/93 agreed} {10.} The British and Irish Governments...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Consent Principles

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: When the text of the interim draft was tabled, it contained a variety of errors: not all of the new text was successfully underlined, and there were some differences between the text agreed and the text typed up. Some of these errors...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Constitutional Guarantees

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: When the text of the interim draft was tabled, it contained a variety of errors: not all of the new text was successfully underlined, and there were some differences between the text agreed and the text typed up. Some of these errors...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Amendment to 8(2)

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This change to the text first appears as a handwritten annotation to the second annotated draft, indicating that it was made during discussion of the interim text. Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Irish Government Amendment to 12(5)

  People: Dermot Nally Martin Mansergh Noel Dorr Seán Ó hUiginn
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Mistranscription of Addition to 5

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: When the text of the interim draft was tabled, it contained a variety of errors: not all of the new text was successfully underlined, and there were some differences between the text agreed and the text typed up. Some of these errors...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Addition to 7(8)

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This change is not indicated in any marginal annotations to the first annotated draft; it appears for the first time in the second annotated draft, typed up as if it had been agreed. It is unclear whether the language was formally...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This change to the text first appears as a handwritten annotation to the second annotated draft, indicating that it was made during discussion of the interim text. Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Removal of 'British' before 'Prime Minister'

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This change to the text first appears as a handwritten annotation to the second annotated draft, indicating that it was made during discussion of the interim text.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Amendment to 5(2)

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This change to the text first appears as a handwritten annotation to the second annotated draft, indicating that it was made during discussion of the interim text. Text -between hyphens- has been struck out, text _between underscores_...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Punctuation Change in British Government Amendment to 2(4)

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: This amendment, as typed up for the meeting, included an additional comma which was not there in the amendment as proposed on 3 December 1993.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Punctuation Changes

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: These changes to the text first appear as handwritten annotations to the second annotated draft, indicating that they were made during discussion of the interim text.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  Consistent Spelling of 'Recognise'

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Butler-Nally Meetings, Date: 07 Dec 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: These changes were made to the document as it was typed up to standardize the spelling of 'recognise'. Nobody objected to them during the meeting, and they were retained in later versions of the text.]

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Magee-Loyalist Bilaterals, Date: 08 Dec 1993, 08:30
  Loyalist List of Right and Principles

  People: Loyalist Representative Roy Magee
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Magee Bilaterals, Date: 29 Sep 1993, 12:00
  [Editors' Note: The second of these principles is very similar to a principle in the list of principles passed to the Irish government by Reverend Magee on behalf of Loyalist paramilitaries. We have copied the document into that committee to show the...

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Magee-Loyalist Bilaterals, Date: 29 Sep 1993, 12:00
  List of Principles for Peace

  
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Magee Bilaterals, Date: 29 Sep 1993, 12:00
  Politicans Inciting Paramilitaries

  People: Roy Magee
  
• Northern Ireland Downing Street Joint Declaration (1993), Committee: Irish-Magee Bilaterals, Date: 08 Dec 1993, 09:00
  [Editors' Note: This document was taken back to the Irish government delegation.]