{"186": {"top_level_match": "false", "events": [{"id": 797097, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr King: I came to this process in the dim distant past \u2014 in June \u2014 with no baggage, solely in the belief that for future generations to enjoy the citizenship that we are all currently enjoying, it", "url": "/m2/session/11562#797097", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11562}, {"id": 797847, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Sammy Wilson: First of all, I wish to comment on the amendment and to indicate why, as a party, we will not accept it.\n\nI am not sure that it adds anything to the thrust of the motion. The", "url": "/m2/session/11567#797847", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11567}, {"id": 797933, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Cedric Wilson: It would be impossible for a person who has any understanding of what is happening in the negotiations at Stormont to support this motion and have a clear conscience. When the", "url": "/m2/session/11562#797933", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11562}, {"id": 797949, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Brewster: I have listened to this debate with great interest. It has certainly been wide-ranging - from the broad European approach taken by my Friend Prof Alcock to Mr Paisley's gambit for", "url": "/m2/session/11562#797949", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11562}, {"id": 798623, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Shannon: I am quite concerned about this whole thing, and I have had a lot of correspondence about it. People are deeply concerned about what it means for them personally. 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While it is with pleasure that I do so, I must say that it is a matter of very deep regret to myself and, I am sure, to all others", "url": "/m2/session/11614#799871", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 799876, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr McCartney: May I say at the outset that I wholeheartedly support the motion.\n\nThere are certain fundamental principles that everyone here should take on board. The Anglo-Irish Agreement was", "url": "/m2/session/11614#799876", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 799886, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Close: I must express a certain degree of surprise at this motion. Let Members cast their minds back to November 1985 and reflect for a moment on the debates, comments, various promises and", "url": "/m2/session/11614#799886", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 799895, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr McMichael: The Anglo-Irish Agreement is the impediment to political progress in Northern Ireland. This undemocratic and unrepresentative form of governance has been imposed. Therefore, it is by", "url": "/m2/session/11614#799895", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 799901, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Nesbitt: I agree with the description \"Anglo-Irish diktat\", but if I were a true pedant I should probably say that \"all-Irish process\" would be more accurate than \"Anglo-Irish process\".\n\nIn 1920 a", "url": "/m2/session/11614#799901", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 799931, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Cedric Wilson: I support and fully endorse the sentiments expressed in the motion. I believe that it is not just a motion for those who come from the three main Unionist groups represented here", "url": "/m2/session/11614#799931", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 799935, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Gibson: I support the motion because I see in the Anglo-Irish Agreement the outcome and the evolution of thinking that has pervaded the British diplomatic corps for about a century and a quarter.", "url": "/m2/session/11614#799935", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 799940, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Alcock: One of the many flaws in the Anglo-Irish Agreement was the belief of the British Government that it would provide reconciliation between the two traditions in Northern Ireland and \u2014 more", "url": "/m2/session/11614#799940", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 799964, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Hugh Smyth: I will be very brief. [Laughter]\n\nThe Chairman: It would not be the same if you did not start with those words, Mr Smyth. I am delighted that you are in good form.\n\nMr Hugh Smyth: I'll", "url": "/m2/session/11614#799964", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 799980, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mrs Beattie: On this the anniversary of the Anglo-Irish Agreement, I too oppose resolutely any role or say for Dublin in the internal affairs of Northern Ireland. I cannot acquiesce in the", "url": "/m2/session/11614#799980", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 800001, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "1.45 pm\n\nMr Hussey: In 1985 we were assured of security. Mrs Thatcher promised us peace, stability and reconciliation, and in Parliament on 26 November of the same year Mr King made the following", "url": "/m2/session/11614#800001", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 800009, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Brewster: On this auspicious \u2014 rather, inauspicious \u2014 date Members will be only too well aware of the launch of the book 'The Ulster Unionist Party 1972-92' by Dr David Hume, a distinguished", "url": "/m2/session/11614#800009", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 800017, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Eric Smyth: I rise to support the motion. It concerns me that as we talk about the future of Northern Ireland certain parties are prepared to let the constitution of the province be discussed at", "url": "/m2/session/11614#800017", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 800021, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Jim Rodgers: I support the motion. We should be reading the Anglo-Irish Agreement repeatedly, just to see to what extent it is working. I have heard some politicians saying over a number of years", "url": "/m2/session/11614#800021", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 800025, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Tom Robinson: I rise to support the motion.\n\nIt is 11 years since the Anglo-Irish Agreement was signed. In order to look forward, it is necessary at times to look back. We have a generation of", "url": "/m2/session/11614#800025", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 800034, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Sammy Wilson: I wish to support the motion.\n\nIt is significant that 11 years after the Anglo-Irish Agreement was signed we are still, as Unionists, expressing clear-cut opposition to what was done", "url": "/m2/session/11614#800034", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 800038, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mrs I Robinson: I rise to support the DUP motion. I welcome the opportunity to reaffirm my continued opposition to the infamous and hated Anglo-Irish diktat.\n\nIt can never, and will never, be", "url": "/m2/session/11614#800038", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 800099, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr McKee: The Anglo-Irish Agreement is still there, 11 years on, but the Ulster Unionists' spirit has not dampened any.\n\nI remember, as a young man in my early forties, opposing the Anglo-Irish", "url": "/m2/session/11614#800099", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 800106, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Campbell: Given the time, I will endeavour to be neither long nor repetitious.\n\nThe rationale that underpinned the Anglo-Irish Agreement was the need to bolster the SDLP, to ward off the", "url": "/m2/session/11614#800106", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 800122, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "3.45 pm\n\nMr Empey: May I, first of all, say that I deeply regret that a number of parties are not represented here at this stage of the debate. It must be obvious, despite the bouts of good humour,", "url": "/m2/session/11614#800122", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 800135, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Peter Robinson: This has been a very worthwhile debate, and there have been many very useful contributions. I welcome the fact that the Ulster Unionist Party, having tabled an amendment, did not", "url": "/m2/session/11614#800135", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11614}, {"id": 800354, "title": "PROCEDURE", "description": "Adoption of the Fisheries Issues Report", "url": "/m2/session/11624#800354", "type": "PROCEDURE", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-motion.svg", "session_id": 11624}, {"id": 800604, "title": "CREATE_FROM", "description": "Motion on All-Ireland", "url": "/m2/session/11634#800604", "type": "CREATE_FROM", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-subtype-script-import.svg", "session_id": 11634}, {"id": 800609, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Jim Rodgers: Rubbish.\n\nMr McCartney: I hear a nay from Mr Rodgers, which I will ignore.\n\nOn Monday of this week, before Mr Major made his announcement, it was possible for the entire pro-Union", "url": "/m2/session/11634#800609", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11634}, {"id": 801054, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Rev Dr Ian Paisley: In the British House of Commons yesterday the Government used a ploy so that the representatives from Northern Ireland could not discuss a statement by the Prime Minister. Their", "url": "/m2/session/11634#801054", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11634}, {"id": 801120, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Cedric Wilson: I fully endorse the motion presented by the United Kingdom Unionist Party.\n\nMembers have already heard that the origins of the harmonization that we are opposing are to be found as", "url": "/m2/session/11634#801120", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11634}, {"id": 801335, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr McCartney: This has been an interesting debate, and I am happy to say that there appears to be broad agreement from most parties \u2014 at least the parties of significant numbers \u2014 to the terms of the", "url": "/m2/session/11634#801335", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11634}, {"id": 801827, "title": "CREATE_FROM", "description": "Human Rights", "url": "/m2/session/11659#801827", "type": "CREATE_FROM", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-subtype-script-import.svg", "session_id": 11659}, {"id": 801831, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr McMichael: This motion deals with the fundamentals upon which we must concentrate when looking for a peaceful settlement in Northern Ireland, because central to the search for a new settlement is", "url": "/m2/session/11659#801831", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11659}, {"id": 801867, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "11.15 am\n\nMr Stoker: Human rights can be a very emotive issues. If you were to go out to the street and ask someone if he believed in human rights he would say without hesitation \"Yes, I do.\" But if", "url": "/m2/session/11659#801867", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11659}, {"id": 801929, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Sammy Wilson: Today a lot has been said about particular issues in the east/west debate. The subject has been well covered \u2014 ad nausem, some might say \u2014 by some of the Members from the west. It", "url": "/m2/session/11659#801929", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11659}, {"id": 802048, "title": "PROCEDURE", "description": "Correspondence", "url": "/m2/session/11669#802048", "type": "PROCEDURE", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-motion.svg", "session_id": 11669}, {"id": 802151, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr McAlister: I rise in the knowledge that I know exactly what the DUP amendment is about. I am sorry Mr Hugh Smyth is never here whenever I wish to make a comment. I do not know whether this a", "url": "/m2/session/11669#802151", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11669}, {"id": 802330, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Ian Paisley Jnr: I welcome this debate. While supporting the motion, we are concerned about its rather anaemic form and muddled approach. At this time there is no point in calling on the", "url": "/m2/session/11673#802330", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11673}, {"id": 802336, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Gregory Campbell: I wish to congratulate those Members who have drawn attention to and analysed the political will of the present Government and their lack of determination.\n\nThat was very clearly", "url": "/m2/session/11673#802336", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11673}, {"id": 802843, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Rev Dr Ian Paisley: It always amazes me how people put such emphasis on opinion polls when it suits them. There is only one poll that will get the Alliance Party anywhere, and that is the poll at the", "url": "/m2/session/11683#802843", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11683}, {"id": 802848, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr McCartney: When we talk about the world of reality, as seen through the eyes of the Alliance Party, we talk as if the appointment of this commission, independent or otherwise, will be the answer", "url": "/m2/session/11683#802848", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11683}, {"id": 802849, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Ian Paisley Jnr: It is sobering to follow such a candid speech. MrMcCartney hit the nail on the head with regards to the importance of this issue.\n\nThe Labour Party's motion says that we should", "url": "/m2/session/11683#802849", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11683}, {"id": 802971, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Dodds: The fact that, as the amendment says, the proposed parades commission is entirely alien to the British constitutional system has been pointed out by Ulster Unionist Members.\n\nThis amendment", "url": "/m2/session/11686#802971", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11686}, {"id": 802973, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Carrick: I rise to speak in support of the DUP amendment, but before delivering my prepared speech I want to respond to Sir Oliver Napier, who referred to the casualties of Drumcree. As one who", "url": "/m2/session/11686#802973", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11686}, {"id": 804010, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "The Chairman: We will resume with Prof Alcock, whom I cut off in his prime the last time he spoke. I hope I can make amends today.\n\nMr Alcock: Two years ago the Dublin Forum \u2014 except Sinn Fein \u2014", "url": "/m2/session/11705#804010", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11705}, {"id": 804011, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Close: I have been involved in talks and in talks about talks for a very long time \u2014 from the Atkins conference up to and including the current talks at Castle Buildings. There is no doubt that", "url": "/m2/session/11705#804011", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11705}, {"id": 804013, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Peter Robinson: The Women's Coalition has eventually joined us.\n\nThe Chairman: It is very nice to see them.\n\nMr McKee: My speech will be simple, yet it will be from the heart and it will be a", "url": "/m2/session/11705#804013", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11705}, {"id": 804037, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "POLITICAL NEGOTIATIONS:\nCONTINUING VIOLENCE\n\n\n\nDebate resumed on amendments to motion [7 March 1997]:\nThe Northern Ireland Forum regrets that continuing violence and the threat of violence has", "url": "/m2/session/11708#804037", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11708}, {"id": 804387, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr McCartney: The Prime Minister by making a seminal speech on his policy for Northern Ireland within two weeks of his party's entry into government underlines the importance that he attributes to", "url": "/m2/session/11711#804387", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11711}, {"id": 804390, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Alcock: In rising to speak to the motion noting the Prime Minister's publicly stated commitment to the Union, I would like to sound a word of caution. One of Northern Ireland's historians wrote a", "url": "/m2/session/11711#804390", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11711}, {"id": 804394, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "The Chairman: I am a little late. It is my fault.\n\nMr McBride: Thank you, Mr Chairman. I did not realize I was going to be called this early.\n\nThe Chairman: I am sure it will not affect your", "url": "/m2/session/11711#804394", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11711}, {"id": 804395, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Rev William McCrea: We have had a serious debate because the very important issues raised by the speech go right to the very heart of the problem that many of us as democrats face. It was good that", "url": "/m2/session/11711#804395", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11711}, {"id": 804846, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr McBride: I am very happy to support the substance of the motion and, indeed, of the amendment.\n\nThis is a very serious subject, and it is important that we examine it. It is also very important", "url": "/m2/session/11713#804846", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11713}, {"id": 808807, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Foster: On a point of information, Mr Chairman. I congratulate Standing Committee A on its presentation, but I must point out that the references on pages 47, 49 and 50 to the Royal Black", "url": "/m2/session/11749#808807", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11749}, {"id": 808808, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr McBride: The Alliance Party will be opposing the adoption of this report.\n\nThis is a very serious issue. None of us can have any doubt about that given the circumstances we are living in today and", "url": "/m2/session/11749#808808", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11749}, {"id": 808809, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr John White: The UDP took the role and function of the Parades Committee very seriously. From the outset we believed it vital that the Forum deliberate not solely on matters on which there would be", "url": "/m2/session/11749#808809", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11749}, {"id": 809198, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Trimble: I think it appropriate that we have this opportunity to take note of the Prime Minister's statement. There is no doubt that what he said this week will turn out to be one of the key", "url": "/m2/session/11840#809198", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11840}, {"id": 809206, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Nesbitt: Dr Paisley's first comment was that the hour is grave. Every Unionist in the Forum today will concur with that. Unionism is under pressure more than ever. I rarely use the word, but I", "url": "/m2/session/11840#809206", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11840}, {"id": 809207, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "The Chairman: We look forward to Mr McCartney's summing-up. As it is now 2.56 and we have another debate to complete within the hour, perhaps he will be quick.\n\nMr McCartney: I am certainly not", "url": "/m2/session/11840#809207", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11840}, {"id": 811470, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "[Rev Dr Ian Paisley:] What needs to be said first of all is that what happened in recent weeks was a result of the Government's handling of the situation over a number of years. We have heard much", "url": "/m2/session/11948#811470", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 11948}, {"id": 811475, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "Ms McWilliams: I stand again to say that the Women's Coalition represents an inclusive approach to the politics of Northern Ireland. Inclusiveness involves respecting the views of Nationalists and", "url": "/m2/session/11948#811475", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 11948}, {"id": 811485, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "Mr Nesbitt: I did not intend to speak in this debate, but I shall say a few words.\n\nWe have heard much these past two weeks about the annoyance and the concern of the Nationalist community. I speak", "url": "/m2/session/11948#811485", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 11948}, {"id": 811489, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "1.00 pm\n\nRev Trevor Kirkland: The present situation has been variously described both here and outside this body. It has been called everything from a \"a blip on the screen of the peace process\" to", "url": "/m2/session/11948#811489", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 11948}, {"id": 828381, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr McCartney: On the assumption that the minutiae of the subject-matter has been examined with the care and consideration shown by Mr Weir, I would like simply to make a number of general remarks to", "url": "/m2/session/12590#828381", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12590}, {"id": 828495, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mrs I Robinson: I regret that Ms McWilliams did not stay for the rest of the debate, as it is to her that I want to address my comments. It is interesting that she selected only the Parades Committee", "url": "/m2/session/12593#828495", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12593}, {"id": 829255, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "2.30 pm\n\nMr Gardiner: To use a phrase coined by Mr Hugh Smyth, I shall be brief.\n\nThe Government, as they consider which projects to fund for the millennium celebrations, should concentrate solely on", "url": "/m2/session/12598#829255", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 12598}, {"id": 829256, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "Mr Eric Smyth: I feel sorry for the people of Northern Ireland today who are, once again, being fooled by those who try to deceive them. Those deceivers tell us that if we negotiate with the IRA all", "url": "/m2/session/12598#829256", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 12598}, {"id": 829257, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "Mr Brewster: One of the buzz-words or phrases that we have heard a great deal about in recent times is that of confidence-building measures.\n\nLike so many phrases, it has a sub-text and it has been", "url": "/m2/session/12598#829257", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 12598}, {"id": 829259, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "Mr Poots: I come here today as a somewhat disillusioned person. Democracy has been rejected by the Government and violent Republicanism has been embraced. We opposed the Anglo-Irish Agreement in 1985", "url": "/m2/session/12598#829259", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 12598}, {"id": 829320, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Rev Dr Ian Paisley: I am not going to agree with Mr McBride. Anyone who in this grave hour of Ulster's peril says that this motion advocates an independent Ulster has obviously taken leave of his", "url": "/m2/session/12645#829320", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12645}, {"id": 829324, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Davis: I want to quote from the House of Commons debate of 27 November 1985 on the Anglo-Irish Agreement. I am sure that Members will know whom I am quoting. We shall be told by the Government", "url": "/m2/session/12645#829324", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12645}, {"id": 829325, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Weir: This week we heard one of the least surprising announcements in the history of Northern Ireland \u2014 that the IRA was not committed to non-violence and, indeed, intended to hand in not a single", "url": "/m2/session/12645#829325", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12645}, {"id": 829452, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "The Chairman: Quite a number of Members \u2014 mostly from the DUP \u2014 have still to speak. Please avoid repetition so that we can finish by about 4 o'clock.\n\nRev Trevor Kirkland: I have found this debate", "url": "/m2/session/12645#829452", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12645}, {"id": 829453, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Gibson: Many analogies have been used in this debate, and there have been some interesting contributions. Several were very reasoned; others were perhaps more swashbuckling and forthright.\n\nPeople", "url": "/m2/session/12645#829453", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12645}, {"id": 829454, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Calvert: I rise to support the motion, which is very timely. It is short, simple and to the point.\n\nIf you were to take seriously the propaganda which has been pushed out in recent days and weeks", "url": "/m2/session/12645#829454", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12645}, {"id": 829515, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "[Rev Trevor Kirkland:] There is a touch of irony in this debate. The Ulster Unionist Party, including MrBrewster, supports a bill of rights, but, as MrMaginnis said on 'Newsnight' this week, the IRA", "url": "/m2/session/12648#829515", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12648}, {"id": 831846, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "[Rev Dr Ian Paisley:] During the first talks, there was a meeting at Downing Street which was attended by the Leader of the Official Unionist Party \u2014 then Mr Molyneaux \u2014 the Leader of the Alliance", "url": "/m2/session/12720#831846", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12720}, {"id": 831847, "title": "PROPOSE_DOCUMENT_AMENDMENT", "description": "UUP Amendment: Motion on the Republic of Ireland's territorial claim to Northern Ireland", "url": "/m2/session/12720#831847", "type": "PROPOSE_DOCUMENT_AMENDMENT", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-amend.svg", "session_id": 12720}, {"id": 831853, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Peter Robinson: I should first explain that we originally considered moving a slightly different motion \u2014 one that referred to articles 2 and 3. However, we settled on the one on the Order Paper,", "url": "/m2/session/12720#831853", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12720}, {"id": 831855, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Weir: Unlike some other Members, I am going to concentrate my remarks on the motion rather than have a go at other Unionist parties. I was particularly annoyed at the remarks of Mr Ian Paisley Jnr", "url": "/m2/session/12720#831855", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12720}, {"id": 831856, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Rev Trevor Kirkland: This debate has certainly been revealing. It has flushed out the views of the WC on articles 2 and 3. It has been even more revealing about Mr Brewster's views. He seems to adopt", "url": "/m2/session/12720#831856", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12720}, {"id": 831873, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr McKee: I support my party's motion; it is the right one. The Loyalist people of Ulster want nothing to do with Dublin's having a say in running the affairs of Northern Ireland.\n\nI was taught", "url": "/m2/session/12720#831873", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12720}, {"id": 833034, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Ms Sagar: I too rise to support the motion. It is a very general motion, so, Mr Chairman, you will be pleased to know that I will not be repeating what everybody else has said.\nConsultation and", "url": "/m2/session/12754#833034", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12754}, {"id": 833036, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Davis: I notice from the motion that the Government are continuing to exclude elected representatives. Surely that should come as no surprise to Members of the Forum or to people outside because", "url": "/m2/session/12754#833036", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12754}, {"id": 833099, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Hugh Smyth: I will be brief.\n\nI know that Mr McAlister was not referring to me when he talked about people being at the talks who had not obtained the necessary votes. I am sure he knows that I", "url": "/m2/session/12758#833099", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12758}, {"id": 833106, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "[Mr Gregory Campbell:] I rise, like so many before me, to support the motion. We have had a significant debate this morning, and some of it was very useful in terms of what might be a proper form of", "url": "/m2/session/12758#833106", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12758}, {"id": 833107, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Rev William McCrea: I must confess that I did not intend to speak, but having listened to the drivel of Mr Brewster's opening remarks \u2014 and I am sorry that he is going out\u2014 I could not remain in my", "url": "/m2/session/12758#833107", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12758}, {"id": 833167, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Ian Paisley Jnr: It is rather unusual when debating a motion like this to find myself in agreement with some of the sentiments expressed by MrCasey. For the first time in the Forum, my party can", "url": "/m2/session/12761#833167", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12761}, {"id": 834635, "title": "CREATE", "description": "Motion on the Anglo-Irish agreement", "url": "/m2/session/12824#834635", "type": "CREATE", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-subtype-script-add.svg", "session_id": 12824}, {"id": 834637, "title": "CREATE_FROM", "description": "Motion on the Anglo-Irish agreement", "url": "/m2/session/12822#834637", "type": "CREATE_FROM", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-subtype-script-import.svg", "session_id": 12822}, {"id": 834638, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "[Mr Trimble:] It is my sad duty to propose this motion relating to the Anglo-Irish Agreement. I say \"sad\" because, unfortunately, we have, yet again, reached another anniversary without having seen", "url": "/m2/session/12822#834638", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12822}, {"id": 834639, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Lord Alderdice: I listened with interest and intent to Mr Robinson's contribution. He showed that not only had his opposition to the Anglo-Irish Agreement not flagged in any way but that his anger", "url": "/m2/session/12822#834639", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12822}, {"id": 834640, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Ms Sagar: A year ago we debated almost exactly the same motion we are debating today. Now, thankfully, we have much less violence on our streets, and the climate should be conducive to a more", "url": "/m2/session/12822#834640", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12822}, {"id": 834641, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Shannon: I rise to support the motion as moved by the Ulster Unionists.\n\nWe can all recall, only too well, the infamous signing of the Anglo-Irish Agreement. Equally, we can recall the assurances", "url": "/m2/session/12822#834641", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12822}, {"id": 834645, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Tom Robinson: Many Members will remember the famous words of Mrs Thatcher, repeated in the Forum on a number of occasions this afternoon, that the Anglo-Irish Agreement would bring peace,", "url": "/m2/session/12822#834645", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12822}, {"id": 834646, "title": "ADOPT_PROPOSAL", "description": "Question put and agreed to.\n\nResolved (resolution subsequently negatived in accordance with Rule 13(1)):\n\nThis Forum calls on the Government to recognize that the 1985 Anglo-Irish Agreement has", "url": "/m2/session/12822#834646", "type": "ADOPT_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-decision-adopt.svg", "session_id": 12822}, {"id": 834803, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Foster: I have nothing against the individuals who are chosen to serve on quangos. I do not cast any doubt upon their integrity, their responsibility and their willingness to serve the community", "url": "/m2/session/12825#834803", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12825}, {"id": 834811, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Donaldson: I rise to endorse my Colleagues' criticism of quangos.\n\nWhile I welcome the publication of the Government's consultation document on opening up quangos, we must go, as other Members", "url": "/m2/session/12825#834811", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12825}, {"id": 836700, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "Mr Morrow: I would like to refer to the shenanigans that took place in Downing Street yesterday. One of this morning's papers says\n\n\"The door opened behind Adams. The door nearly rattled off its", "url": "/m2/session/12888#836700", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 12888}, {"id": 836707, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "Mrs Parkes: May I join other Members in wishing Mr Gorman a speedy recovery.\n\nI want to speak briefly about a couple of matters which come under the heading of social security. Members will be aware", "url": "/m2/session/12888#836707", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 12888}, {"id": 836878, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Weir: I want to start by congratulating the Member who brought this matter to the attention of the Forum. My party will be supporting the motion.\n\nThere are several reasons for the Irish", "url": "/m2/session/12893#836878", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12893}, {"id": 836930, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "Mr Weir: I do not want to pre-empt something which may be brought before the Forum in a few weeks' time, but Members should be aware of the Government's proposals for preparatory schools.\n\nThe", "url": "/m2/session/12897#836930", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 12897}, {"id": 837263, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "Rev Trevor Kirkland: I want to speak about the current political /security situation. It is ironic that those who complained and pontificated in the past, saying that they were not into the politics", "url": "/m2/session/12899#837263", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 12899}, {"id": 837677, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Casey: I support the motion as it is in line with the policy of my party. We have declared within the talks process that we are not interested in two communities having parity of esteem, that we", "url": "/m2/session/12916#837677", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12916}, {"id": 837680, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Foster: I too support the motion. There seems to be a sociological perspective here (that is, if you agree with sociologists \u2014 and I do not know anyone who always does).\n\nI am not convinced that", "url": "/m2/session/12916#837680", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12916}, {"id": 837682, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "TRADE UNION RALLY\n\nThe Chairman: I suggest that we break until two o'clock to enable those who wish to do so to attend the rally.\n\nRev Dr Ian Paisley: I was amazed to hear this morning's announcement", "url": "/m2/session/12916#837682", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12916}, {"id": 838039, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "Mr Peter Robinson: I want to deal with the sleight of hand that is being attempted by some in relation to the talks process and the present negotiations. Some people are saying that the two", "url": "/m2/session/12926#838039", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 12926}, {"id": 840434, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Poots: The security situation did not start to deteriorate last Friday; it started to deteriorate two months ago with a murder in the Maze. Since then there have been two Loyalist murders in the", "url": "/m2/session/13034#840434", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 13034}, {"id": 840481, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "Mr Foster: This man Foster has nothing at all to do with me. We are not related in any way. All I can say is that he fostering support for his Bill.\n\nI fully agree with a number of points that the", "url": "/m2/session/13036#840481", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 13036}, {"id": 841059, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "Mr Brewster: The Ulster Unionist Party wholeheartedly agrees with Mr McCrea and Mr Morrow. This document is deplorable and despicable. It takes us back to the worst days of Nick Scott. We will", "url": "/m2/session/13072#841059", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 13072}, {"id": 841203, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "2.30 pm\n\nMr Shannon: We have not yet seen this document, which had 65 pages on Monday and 67 this afternoon and may have 68 before it is finished. Whatever their number, the pages will detail what is", "url": "/m2/session/13083#841203", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 13083}, {"id": 841224, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "[Mr Trimble:] Although it is referred to at the moment as the Castle Buildings Agreement, I expect that history will record this as the Stormont Agreement. That might be more appropriate.\n\nThe", "url": "/m2/session/13086#841224", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 13086}, {"id": 841225, "title": "PROPOSE_DOCUMENT_AMENDMENT", "description": "DUP Amendment: Motion on the Multi-Party Agreement", "url": "/m2/session/13086#841225", "type": "PROPOSE_DOCUMENT_AMENDMENT", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-amend.svg", "session_id": 13086}, {"id": 841226, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "When treachery takes the stage, secrecy is always its garment. The so-called negotiations at Stormont were not a transparent discussion of the future of our beloved province but, rather, an ultimatum", "url": "/m2/session/13086#841226", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 13086}, {"id": 841229, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr John White: The Agreement concluded on 10 April 1998 has been falsely portrayed as a Unionist sell-out. Attempts to elicit a \"No\" vote in the referendum are based on a series of half-truths,", "url": "/m2/session/13086#841229", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 13086}, {"id": 841234, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Neeson: Surprise, surprise \u2014 the DUP says \"No\". The word \"Yes\" is not and never will be part of its vocabulary. It believes strongly in the principle of consent, so long as that means that it can", "url": "/m2/session/13086#841234", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 13086}, {"id": 841235, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Foster: It is sad that such a serious debate has deteriorated so much because of the Democratic Unionist Party's antics. The behaviour is atrocious. There is no humility whatsoever. The arrogance", "url": "/m2/session/13086#841235", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 13086}, {"id": 841240, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Peter Robinson: On a point of order, Mr Chairman. I have been accused of putting an advertisement in the Belfast 'News Letter' and the 'Belfast Telegraph'. I can assure Members that I knew nothing", "url": "/m2/session/13086#841240", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 13086}, {"id": 841241, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr McKee: I came here this morning with a certain amount of fear and trepidation. There are so many lawyers and academics \u2014 nutty professors \u2014 in the place who are used to playing with words and", "url": "/m2/session/13086#841241", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 13086}, {"id": 841242, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "2.45 pm\n\nMr Sammy Wilson: Unfortunately I missed most of the morning's events in the Forum. However, I did hear some comments on the radio at lunch-time. I was struck by the defence that the Leader", "url": "/m2/session/13086#841242", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 13086}, {"id": 841243, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Shannon: I want to address a particular issue in the document. The section starting on page19 is headed \"Rights, Safeguards and Equality of Opportunity\". The subheading is \"Economic, Social and", "url": "/m2/session/13086#841243", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 13086}, {"id": 841331, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Poots: Last Friday, 10 April, was Good Friday. Some people suggest that it was a very good Friday. No doubt, for those people it was a very good Friday indeed. Some suggest that they achieved what", "url": "/m2/session/13086#841331", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 13086}, {"id": 841332, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Rev Trevor Kirkland: Two things have become evident during the course of this debate. First, the way Members have reacted to it is the way this whole campaign is going to be run. None of the people", "url": "/m2/session/13086#841332", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 13086}, {"id": 841336, "title": "ADOPT_PROPOSAL", "description": "Main Question, as amended, put and agreed to.\n\nResolved (resolution subsequently negatived in accordance with Rule 13(1)):\n\nThat this Forum opposes the Castle Buildings Agreement published on 10", "url": "/m2/session/13086#841336", "type": "ADOPT_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-decision-adopt.svg", "session_id": 13086}, {"id": 844132, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "Mr Cedric Wilson: Probably like many other Members, when I was thinking about a subject for this debate I had great difficulty in selecting the one that I thought was of greatest importance. Most", "url": "/m2/session/11610#844132", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 11610}, {"id": 845178, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "SPECIAL DEBATE (RULE 10 (5))\nThe Chairman: I remind Members that the five-minute speeches are to be strictly limited to five minutes, and Members may speak on any subject. May I ask people not to", "url": "/m2/session/11673#845178", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 11673}, {"id": 956735, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "12.45 pm\n\nDr Alderdice: On behalf of my colleagues, I wish to express condolences to the family of the young man who has died \u2014 and it looks very much as though he may have been murdered. 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They acknowledged that the SDLP had based their paper on their analysis of the", "url": "/m2/session/11453#802011", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11453}, {"id": 802014, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "9. The Ulster Unionist Party delegation opened by referring to the way that successive Secretaries of State had gone on record about the status of Northern Ireland within the United Kingdom. British", "url": "/m2/session/11453#802014", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11453}, {"id": 802015, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "13. The UDUP delegation opened by quoting at length from the Belfast Telegraph editorial of 13 May 1992. The editorial made it clear the SDLP's proposals could not be acceptable or workable. The", "url": "/m2/session/11453#802015", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11453}, {"id": 802017, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "18. The UDUP delegation asked how it was possible that the Government of Northern Ireland would be equivalent to any other part of the United Kingdom when there would be a Minister appointed from a", "url": "/m2/session/11453#802017", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11453}, {"id": 802026, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "2. The Government Team invited the SDLP to respond to the comments on their paper made in the previous session.\n\n3. The SDLP delegation said that they found some of the comments outrageous and a", "url": "/m2/session/11453#802026", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11453}, {"id": 802030, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "13. The Government Team reflected on the earlier comments of the Alliance delegation. The quotations from Garrett Fitzgerald were, it said, an encouragement to Unionists towards devolution. The then", "url": "/m2/session/11453#802030", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11453}, {"id": 802047, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "5. The UDUP delegation was however anxious to reply to a point made earlier by the SDLP to the effect that the authority of the UK Parliament had in effect been overcome in 1912 by threats from the", "url": "/m2/session/11453#802047", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11453}, {"id": 802065, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "12. The UDUP delegation believed that the SDLP proposals could never command the endorsement of the Unionist community. That community had firmly rejected the Anglo-Irish Agreement which gave what", "url": "/m2/session/11453#802065", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11453}, {"id": 802140, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "14. The Government Team invited the Alliance Party delegation to give its view of the acceptability of the SDLP proposals. The Alliance Party delegation recalled its experience at the time of the", "url": "/m2/session/11453#802140", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11453}, {"id": 802162, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "1. The meeting resumed its discussion of the SDLP proposals. The UDUP delegation suggested that the SDLP proposals would entrench community divisions rather than avoiding them. The SDLP delegation", "url": "/m2/session/11453#802162", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11453}, {"id": 802181, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "12. The UUP delegation suggested the SDLP had tried to achieve too much in their paper. The problems of identity they had referred to frequently might be accommodated in the three-stranded process as", "url": "/m2/session/11453#802181", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11453}, {"id": 802210, "title": "CREATE_FROM", "description": "Alliance Proposals for a New System of", "url": "/m2/session/11454#802210", "type": "CREATE_FROM", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-subtype-script-import.svg", "session_id": 11454}, {"id": 802212, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "12. The SDLP delegation, coming to the issue of acceptability, asked what would happen once an executive failed the acceptability test. They suggested that the arrangements put forward by the", "url": "/m2/session/11454#802212", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11454}, {"id": 802259, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "11. When it was suggested that the UUP proposals showed no sign of any readiness to accommodate the Irish identity in the structures of government in Northern Ireland the UUP delegation said that", "url": "/m2/session/11454#802259", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11454}, {"id": 802274, "title": "CREATE_FROM", "description": "A Sure", "url": "/m2/session/11455#802274", "type": "CREATE_FROM", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-subtype-script-import.svg", "session_id": 11455}, {"id": 802297, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "4. At this point the UDUP delegation said that the discussion had been side tracked into Strand 2 issues. Strand 1 was supposed to be about internal structures for Northern Ireland and they", "url": "/m2/session/11455#802297", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11455}, {"id": 802827, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "4. The UDUP delegation asked whether the SDLP thought that Northern Ireland would have status outside the United Kingdom in the foreseeable future. The SDLP delegation responded by explaining their", "url": "/m2/session/11405#802827", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11405}, {"id": 815054, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "2. During Alliance Party clarifications of the UUP presentation, the following main points were made:-\n\n(a) Paragraph 4. Any new British-Irish agreement should be co-extensive to the entire territory", "url": "/m2/session/11572#815054", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11572}, {"id": 815065, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "(d) Paragraph 11. The concept of modern Unionism was acceptance of the existence of a separate Republic of Ireland, coupled with the aims of removing the ambiguities which had grown up over the", "url": "/m2/session/11572#815065", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11572}, {"id": 815719, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "(e) Paragraph 18\n\nThe \"various principles\" referred to in line two of paragraph 18 were that any new agreement must be stable, durable and command widespread agreement across the community if it were", "url": "/m2/session/11408#815719", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11408}, {"id": 822273, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "He felt that this was a pretty reasonable approach. If however it proved unacceptable the Secretary of State could come back to him. The only set of negotiations so far which had made progress (those", "url": "/m2/session/11430#822273", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11430}, {"id": 822654, "title": "PROPOSE_DOCUMENT_AMENDMENT", "description": "3. Alliance Party List of Key", "url": "/m2/session/11414#822654", "type": "PROPOSE_DOCUMENT_AMENDMENT", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-amend.svg", "session_id": 11414}, {"id": 822726, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "2. Mr Molyneaux made a pre-prepared statement in which he reminded the Secretary of State that when he had met the two Unionist leaders about a month after his arrival in Northern Ireland he had told", "url": "/m2/session/12468#822726", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12468}, {"id": 822727, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "3. Dr Paisley endorsed Mr Molyneaux's remarks. He said that the two parties would be speaking with one voice during the talks. He wished, however, to clarify one point. The Unionists were attending", "url": "/m2/session/12468#822727", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12468}, {"id": 822882, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "14. Dr Paisley said that the nature of the test of acceptability was a real problem. He understood that the Republic of Ireland might need to hold a referendum in relation to the replacement of the", "url": "/m2/session/12468#822882", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12468}, {"id": 822891, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "The Secretary of State warned that this was a new precondition. Mr Robinson responded that this was not a precondition to talks but a precondition to progress. Dr Paisley reiterated his position and", "url": "/m2/session/12468#822891", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12468}, {"id": 822916, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "21. Mr Molyneaux said that the Unionists had already made a number of concessions to Dublin. In October 1987, when Mr King had told them that he could not give them an undertaking that he would", "url": "/m2/session/12468#822916", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12468}, {"id": 823304, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "He confirmed that strand three could start during strand two and was essentially a matter between the two Governments insofar as the Anglo-Irish Agreement was to be affected. It was also recognised", "url": "/m2/session/11615#823304", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11615}, {"id": 823379, "title": "PROPOSE_DOCUMENT_AMENDMENT", "description": "Need for New Anglo-Irish", "url": "/m2/session/12478#823379", "type": "PROPOSE_DOCUMENT_AMENDMENT", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-amend.svg", "session_id": 12478}, {"id": 823398, "title": "NO_OBJECTION", "description": "For their part the Unionists had produced a compromise proposal, they did not like it but they would live with it and justify it publicly, it was now for the Secretary of State to put it to the SDLP.", "url": "/m2/session/12478#823398", "type": "NO_OBJECTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-decision-implied-adopt.svg", "session_id": 12478}, {"id": 824233, "title": "PROPOSE_DOCUMENT_AMENDMENT", "description": "Nothing is Agreed Until Everything Is", "url": "/m2/session/12489#824233", "type": "PROPOSE_DOCUMENT_AMENDMENT", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-amend.svg", "session_id": 12489}, {"id": 825682, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "6. The Secretary of State said that his statement of 26 March had included more words than those quoted by the SDLP and referred to paragraph 3 of the statement in which he had said that \"For their", "url": "/m2/session/12537#825682", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12537}, {"id": 826699, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "6. Dr Paisley, picking up the point, added that all the Unionist delegation were perturbed at the Secretary of State's remarks about the second strand. They had understood that the second strand", "url": "/m2/session/12556#826699", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12556}, {"id": 827435, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "The SDLP questioned the reference in the second paragraph to \"... a suspension of the working of the Anglo-Irish Agreement\", noting that while the reference in the first paragraph was from the", "url": "/m2/session/12574#827435", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12574}, {"id": 828079, "title": "PROPOSE_DOCUMENT_AMENDMENT", "description": "Agenda for Strand 2 - Articles 2 and 3 of the Irish", "url": "/m2/session/12572#828079", "type": "PROPOSE_DOCUMENT_AMENDMENT", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-amend.svg", "session_id": 12572}, {"id": 828900, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "3. The Secretary of State offered an account of what had transpired since his last meeting with the SDLP. He said that he had told the SDLP on the morning of 15 May (and he apologised for not having", "url": "/m2/session/12569#828900", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 12569}, {"id": 836125, "title": "PROPOSE_DOCUMENT_AMENDMENT", "description": "Constitutional Status: Unionist", "url": "/m2/session/11409#836125", "type": "PROPOSE_DOCUMENT_AMENDMENT", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-amend.svg", "session_id": 11409}, {"id": 836431, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "13. Dr Paisley referred to the Secretary of State's remarks about the status of Northern Ireland in his statement of 5 July 1990. What he had said then was correct, but it was also necessary to take", "url": "/m2/session/11409#836431", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11409}, {"id": 836437, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "20. Dr Paisley said that we were addressing the heart of the problem. The Nationalist community had taken the position that their real loyalty lay with the Southern Government. For thisreason, they", "url": "/m2/session/11409#836437", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11409}, {"id": 836470, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "2. The Secretary of State began by asking Dr Paisley to expand on his comment at an earlier session about nationalists saying to unionists that they did not accept the Government in Northern Ireland.", "url": "/m2/session/11409#836470", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11409}, {"id": 836472, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "5. Mr McCrea countered this by saying that experience at local council level showed the SDLP only willing to share power in a partial way. He said that the Protestant community in his constituency", "url": "/m2/session/11409#836472", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11409}, {"id": 836476, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "10. Dr Alderdice commented that like the Unionists his predecessor had not been consulted in any way prior to the signing of the Anglo Irish Agreement. He asked unionists to think about why the", "url": "/m2/session/11409#836476", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11409}, {"id": 836793, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "12. Mr Molyneaux said that in any future arrangements, anything similar to Article 4 of the Anglo-Irish Agreement would not be acceptable since this envisaged the Conference determining which matters", "url": "/m2/session/11409#836793", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11409}, {"id": 837166, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "39. Mr Robinson, resuming his earlier line of questioning, said that Mr Hume had argued that Unionists were not pro-British but rather against joining the Irish Republic. The Sinn Fein identity was", "url": "/m2/session/11409#837166", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11409}, {"id": 837181, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Dr Paisley disputed the fact that the Irish Constitution was a product of the Civil War and said that far from representing the will of the people it had been passed by a very narrow majority. The", "url": "/m2/session/11410#837181", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11410}, {"id": 837199, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "The Minister of State asked Mr Hume if he thought that some of the reluctance in the Republic to abandon Articles 2 and 3 arose from a fear that to do so would undermine the very identity of the", "url": "/m2/session/11410#837199", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11410}, {"id": 837221, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "2. Mr Hume said that emotive issues were being raised. Delegates could continue to \"wave flags\" or seek a more constructive way of moving forward. The SDLP could say, for example, that Northern", "url": "/m2/session/11410#837221", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11410}, {"id": 837222, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "7. Mr Maginnis said that he was worried that the SDLP were drawing away from the core issue of Articles 2 and 3. The question had become more acute as a result of the Irish Government being given an", "url": "/m2/session/11410#837222", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11410}, {"id": 837236, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "Mr Hume commented that the discussion so far had confirmed his view that the central relationship to be addressed was the North/South one.\n\n19. Mr Robinson said that he would like clarification of", "url": "/m2/session/11410#837236", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11410}, {"id": 837468, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "The UDUP said that they had signed up to the three stranded process and so recognised that there had to be an all-encompassing agreement. The UUP said that they had been saying ever since the 1986", "url": "/m2/session/11410#837468", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11410}, {"id": 837544, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "2. Rev McCrea asked how an individual could get to a situation where he became a terrorist. One of the factors would be the influence of society around him and perhaps growing up in an atmosphere", "url": "/m2/session/11410#837544", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11410}, {"id": 837837, "title": "PROCEDURE", "description": "HMG to Clearly State Position of Status of Northern", "url": "/m2/session/11411#837837", "type": "PROCEDURE", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-motion.svg", "session_id": 11411}, {"id": 837840, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "(At this point Mr Sammy Wilson left the meeting.) Mr McCrea added that clarification was necessary. The Government genuinely owed it to people to come up with answers; it was time that realities were", "url": "/m2/session/11411#837840", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 11411}, {"id": 837841, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "23. Mr Hume wondered what all this meant in terms of real problems. The discussion was quite unrealistic, but came back to the SDLP statement that the real problem was a conflict of identities. It", "url": "/m2/session/11411#837841", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 11411}, {"id": 837845, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "The Minister of State replied that the Unionist paper was only a partial quotation of what the Secretary of State had said. It had omitted the qualification; HMG' s position was as in Section 1 of", "url": "/m2/session/11411#837845", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11411}, {"id": 838182, "title": "DEBATE_MOTION", "description": "Mr Hume repeated that the SDLP accepted the de facto position but this could not be taken in isolation - there were other de facto issues to be addressed alongside it. Dr Paisley intervened and said", "url": "/m2/session/11411#838182", "type": "DEBATE_MOTION", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-procedure-debate.svg", "session_id": 11411}, {"id": 838186, "title": "PROPOSE_DOCUMENT_AMENDMENT", "description": "Paragraph 16: Alliance", "url": "/m2/session/11411#838186", "type": "PROPOSE_DOCUMENT_AMENDMENT", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-amend.svg", "session_id": 11411}, {"id": 841857, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "The problem was that there was no effective leverage on the SDLP. If the talks failed, they would be content with the fall-back of direct rule and the Anglo-Irish Agreement. The Irish Government", "url": "/m2/session/11498#841857", "type": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "icon_url": "icons2/icon-doc-debate.svg", "session_id": 11498}, {"id": 842351, "title": "DEBATE_PROPOSAL", "description": "5. 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